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Attributes | |
ACN | 261731 |
Time | |
Date | 199401 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : abb |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 20300 msl bound upper : 20500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 261731 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During descent to 20000 ft with clearance to 14000 ft at pilot's discretion, TCASII RA occurred at approximately 20300 ft. Due to high cockpit noise level (high airspeed) and copying of cvg ATIS, actual voice command was not intelligible. First officer had received TA from ATC and had traffic in sight but it did not know this. When RA occurred and first officer did not react, I took control of aircraft, disconnected autoplt and leveled airplane. In the process airplane climbed to approximately 20500 ft. Airplane then descended to 20000 ft. RA occurred again, but by this time first officer had told me of TA and said that had traffic in sight. No further action was required and visual indication was 1000 ft separation. ATC controller advised. I was informed that while we were cleared for descent, the other aircraft was cleared to climb to 19000 ft. Apparently our closure rate caused the RA. In retrospect, at no time was there any real threat of collision or near miss.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG ACR ACFT TOOK OVER THE CTLS FROM THE FO TO RESPOND TO A TCASII RA RESULTING IN AN EXCURSION FROM ASSIGNED DSCNT ALT.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT TO 20000 FT WITH CLRNC TO 14000 FT AT PLT'S DISCRETION, TCASII RA OCCURRED AT APPROX 20300 FT. DUE TO HIGH COCKPIT NOISE LEVEL (HIGH AIRSPD) AND COPYING OF CVG ATIS, ACTUAL VOICE COMMAND WAS NOT INTELLIGIBLE. FO HAD RECEIVED TA FROM ATC AND HAD TFC IN SIGHT BUT IT DID NOT KNOW THIS. WHEN RA OCCURRED AND FO DID NOT REACT, I TOOK CTL OF ACFT, DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND LEVELED AIRPLANE. IN THE PROCESS AIRPLANE CLBED TO APPROX 20500 FT. AIRPLANE THEN DSNDED TO 20000 FT. RA OCCURRED AGAIN, BUT BY THIS TIME FO HAD TOLD ME OF TA AND SAID THAT HAD TFC IN SIGHT. NO FURTHER ACTION WAS REQUIRED AND VISUAL INDICATION WAS 1000 FT SEPARATION. ATC CTLR ADVISED. I WAS INFORMED THAT WHILE WE WERE CLRED FOR DSCNT, THE OTHER ACFT WAS CLRED TO CLB TO 19000 FT. APPARENTLY OUR CLOSURE RATE CAUSED THE RA. IN RETROSPECT, AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY REAL THREAT OF COLLISION OR NEAR MISS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.