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Attributes | |
ACN | 261778 |
Time | |
Date | 199401 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : aqn |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10600 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : sps |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 261778 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 261910 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 1800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Inbound to dallas love field on the acton arrival at 29 DME off the 040 degree radial aqn we were given a clearance to turn to a heading of 360 degrees, descend to 7000 ft and contact approach on 119.05. Shortly after beginning the descent, we received a 'TA' on the TCASII followed by an 'RA.' we climbed to resolve the RA and spotted traffic visually at our 1-2 O'clock position rapidly climbing to 10000 ft. Our lowest altitude reached during the descent was 10600 ft. We quizzed the controller about the clearance. He replied with a frequency change and descent to 7000 ft. We experienced no further difficulties. Supplemental information from acn 261910: initiated descent and immediately got a TA, then RA. Stopped descent and climbed back to 11000 ft, spotted traffic visually at about 10 O'clock, 2-3 mi. TCASII indicated traffic at 9000 ft climbing. Our lowest altitude was about 10600 ft. We asked approach (125.8, the 1 that gave us the clearance) if he gave us a descent to 7000 ft. He simply said no, but then gave us another clearance to 7000 ft. The controller was very busy and simply made a mistake. Had we been IMC and not had TCASII it could have been much more interesting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X DSCNT TO WRONG ALT CLRNC INTERP TCASII TA RA WITH Y PLTDEV.
Narrative: INBOUND TO DALLAS LOVE FIELD ON THE ACTON ARR AT 29 DME OFF THE 040 DEG RADIAL AQN WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO TURN TO A HDG OF 360 DEGS, DSND TO 7000 FT AND CONTACT APCH ON 119.05. SHORTLY AFTER BEGINNING THE DSCNT, WE RECEIVED A 'TA' ON THE TCASII FOLLOWED BY AN 'RA.' WE CLBED TO RESOLVE THE RA AND SPOTTED TFC VISUALLY AT OUR 1-2 O'CLOCK POS RAPIDLY CLBING TO 10000 FT. OUR LOWEST ALT REACHED DURING THE DSCNT WAS 10600 FT. WE QUIZZED THE CTLR ABOUT THE CLRNC. HE REPLIED WITH A FREQ CHANGE AND DSCNT TO 7000 FT. WE EXPERIENCED NO FURTHER DIFFICULTIES. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 261910: INITIATED DSCNT AND IMMEDIATELY GOT A TA, THEN RA. STOPPED DSCNT AND CLBED BACK TO 11000 FT, SPOTTED TFC VISUALLY AT ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK, 2-3 MI. TCASII INDICATED TFC AT 9000 FT CLBING. OUR LOWEST ALT WAS ABOUT 10600 FT. WE ASKED APCH (125.8, THE 1 THAT GAVE US THE CLRNC) IF HE GAVE US A DSCNT TO 7000 FT. HE SIMPLY SAID NO, BUT THEN GAVE US ANOTHER CLRNC TO 7000 FT. THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY AND SIMPLY MADE A MISTAKE. HAD WE BEEN IMC AND NOT HAD TCASII IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE INTERESTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.