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Attributes | |
ACN | 267257 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 267258 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Our emb-120 brasilia was on normal right downwind for runway 29R at fresno. A air carrier Z B-727 was touching down on 29R having approached from a wide right downwind for 29R. Air carrier Y was on a left extended downwind turning left base for 29R. On downwind, I requested that we cross overhead the airport for a left downwind for 29L so that we would not have to follow the air carrier Y B-737 who was on an extended left downwind for 29R. The controller said he would cross us in between the boeings for 29L (right base for 29L). I indicated I had both boeings in sight and was told to maintain visual separation and cleared visual approach 29L, contact tower. Once on tower, the controller instructed us to extend downwind to follow the second boeing. I said that the approach controller was clearing us across the final for right base 29L. He acknowledged and cleared us for right base 29L. Air carrier Z was touching down on 29R while we were on base and air carrier Y was on extended left base to final 29R. We had him clearly in sight and there was plenty of separation. At first he did not have us in sight -- only on TCASII. He then saw us and said 'this does not look good at all.' the controller asked us to expedite across the 29R final. At this point, we were across the 29R final turning final for 29L. All aircraft landed without incident, although it sounded like the air carrier Y pilot thought we were too close. In hindsight we should have extended right downwind to follow air carrier Y. That was the more prudent course of action. I feel that the fact that we were on the final leg of a 13 1/2 hour duty and 7.5 hour block, 8 leg day contributed to the 'get homeitis' syndrome. In addition we were arriving already a half hour late. We did see both aircraft all the way and, in my judgement, there was plenty of separation. Perhaps the air carrier Y pilot thought we too were landing on 29R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LTT ACR ACFT ON BASE LEG TO A PARALLEL RWY CROSSES IN FRONT OF AN MLG ACR ACFT ON FINAL TO THE OTHER PARALLEL RWY CAUSING ALARM TO THE OTHER FLC.
Narrative: OUR EMB-120 BRASILIA WAS ON NORMAL R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 29R AT FRESNO. A ACR Z B-727 WAS TOUCHING DOWN ON 29R HAVING APCHED FROM A WIDE R DOWNWIND FOR 29R. ACR Y WAS ON A L EXTENDED DOWNWIND TURNING L BASE FOR 29R. ON DOWNWIND, I REQUESTED THAT WE CROSS OVERHEAD THE ARPT FOR A L DOWNWIND FOR 29L SO THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ACR Y B-737 WHO WAS ON AN EXTENDED L DOWNWIND FOR 29R. THE CTLR SAID HE WOULD CROSS US IN BTWN THE BOEINGS FOR 29L (R BASE FOR 29L). I INDICATED I HAD BOTH BOEINGS IN SIGHT AND WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION AND CLRED VISUAL APCH 29L, CONTACT TWR. ONCE ON TWR, THE CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO EXTEND DOWNWIND TO FOLLOW THE SECOND BOEING. I SAID THAT THE APCH CTLR WAS CLRING US ACROSS THE FINAL FOR R BASE 29L. HE ACKNOWLEDGED AND CLRED US FOR R BASE 29L. ACR Z WAS TOUCHING DOWN ON 29R WHILE WE WERE ON BASE AND ACR Y WAS ON EXTENDED L BASE TO FINAL 29R. WE HAD HIM CLRLY IN SIGHT AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF SEPARATION. AT FIRST HE DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT -- ONLY ON TCASII. HE THEN SAW US AND SAID 'THIS DOES NOT LOOK GOOD AT ALL.' THE CTLR ASKED US TO EXPEDITE ACROSS THE 29R FINAL. AT THIS POINT, WE WERE ACROSS THE 29R FINAL TURNING FINAL FOR 29L. ALL ACFT LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT, ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDED LIKE THE ACR Y PLT THOUGHT WE WERE TOO CLOSE. IN HINDSIGHT WE SHOULD HAVE EXTENDED R DOWNWIND TO FOLLOW ACR Y. THAT WAS THE MORE PRUDENT COURSE OF ACTION. I FEEL THAT THE FACT THAT WE WERE ON THE FINAL LEG OF A 13 1/2 HR DUTY AND 7.5 HR BLOCK, 8 LEG DAY CONTRIBUTED TO THE 'GET HOMEITIS' SYNDROME. IN ADDITION WE WERE ARRIVING ALREADY A HALF HR LATE. WE DID SEE BOTH ACFT ALL THE WAY AND, IN MY JUDGEMENT, THERE WAS PLENTY OF SEPARATION. PERHAPS THE ACR Y PLT THOUGHT WE TOO WERE LNDG ON 29R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.