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Attributes | |
ACN | 268122 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dpa airport : arr |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cardinal 177/177RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 268122 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 267586 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After receiving vectors around the north side of chicago, we were cleared direct to aurora, il, airport at 3000 ft MSL. At approximately 7 mi northwest of dupage airport, both crewmembers spotted a cessna cardinal right/G at our 4 O'clock relative position. Our IAS was 200 KTS, and the PF added power to avoid the cessna. (We were certain there was very little airspeed change.) I saw the cessna make a left turn away from us. We asked the controller if he had the traffic. The air traffic controller did not pick up the cessna until the cessna was over dupage airport as a primary target. We continued the flight to aurora airport with no further incident. Cause of problem: extensive vectoring at low altitudes around major terminal areas. Increases exposure to low level VFR aircraft. Prevent recurrence: altitude encoding xponders. Great help. We spotted all other traffic pointed out by ATC this morning. TCASII. Supplemental information from acn 267586: possible causes of this near collision are: absence of a secondary radar return from the cessna. He was within the 30 NM veil of the ord class B airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: AFTER RECEIVING VECTORS AROUND THE N SIDE OF CHICAGO, WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO AURORA, IL, ARPT AT 3000 FT MSL. AT APPROX 7 MI NW OF DUPAGE ARPT, BOTH CREWMEMBERS SPOTTED A CESSNA CARDINAL R/G AT OUR 4 O'CLOCK RELATIVE POS. OUR IAS WAS 200 KTS, AND THE PF ADDED PWR TO AVOID THE CESSNA. (WE WERE CERTAIN THERE WAS VERY LITTLE AIRSPD CHANGE.) I SAW THE CESSNA MAKE A L TURN AWAY FROM US. WE ASKED THE CTLR IF HE HAD THE TFC. THE AIR TFC CTLR DID NOT PICK UP THE CESSNA UNTIL THE CESSNA WAS OVER DUPAGE ARPT AS A PRIMARY TARGET. WE CONTINUED THE FLT TO AURORA ARPT WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. CAUSE OF PROB: EXTENSIVE VECTORING AT LOW ALTS AROUND MAJOR TERMINAL AREAS. INCREASES EXPOSURE TO LOW LEVEL VFR ACFT. PREVENT RECURRENCE: ALT ENCODING XPONDERS. GREAT HELP. WE SPOTTED ALL OTHER TFC POINTED OUT BY ATC THIS MORNING. TCASII. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 267586: POSSIBLE CAUSES OF THIS NEAR COLLISION ARE: ABSENCE OF A SECONDARY RADAR RETURN FROM THE CESSNA. HE WAS WITHIN THE 30 NM VEIL OF THE ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.