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Attributes | |
ACN | 269506 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tfd airport : phk |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zab |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Twin Otter DHC-6 |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 269506 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During a phx-tus flight we were in level cruise at 17000 when we had a TCASII advisory of traffic at 10-11 O'clock and 400 below. The captain initiated an immediate climb and I advised ATC immediately that we were in a climb for conflicting traffic. The frequency was busy and it was necessary to call at least twice to ensure that we were acknowledged. We climbed approximately 1000 ft in a left turn to keep the traffic in sight, which was a twin otter parachute jump aircraft. We gradually returned to our assigned altitude, departure said they saw the traffic on radar at 500 below our assigned altitude. We later were requested to correct our heading as the turn we had used to keep the aircraft in sight had diverted us off course. I assume the jump plane had been working that area for some time that day as this is an active jump zone, but at our cruise speed, 500 ft is not enough separation to be safe, and the TCASII performed and demanded an immediate climb as it is supposed to. We should have been warned about the traffic and/or the jump aircraft kept to a lower altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION DUE TO A TCASII RA ON UNKNOWN VFR TFC IN AREA.
Narrative: DURING A PHX-TUS FLT WE WERE IN LEVEL CRUISE AT 17000 WHEN WE HAD A TCASII ADVISORY OF TFC AT 10-11 O'CLOCK AND 400 BELOW. THE CAPT INITIATED AN IMMEDIATE CLB AND I ADVISED ATC IMMEDIATELY THAT WE WERE IN A CLB FOR CONFLICTING TFC. THE FREQ WAS BUSY AND IT WAS NECESSARY TO CALL AT LEAST TWICE TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ACKNOWLEDGED. WE CLIMBED APPROX 1000 FT IN A L TURN TO KEEP THE TFC IN SIGHT, WHICH WAS A TWIN OTTER PARACHUTE JUMP ACFT. WE GRADUALLY RETURNED TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT, DEP SAID THEY SAW THE TFC ON RADAR AT 500 BELOW OUR ASSIGNED ALT. WE LATER WERE REQUESTED TO CORRECT OUR HDG AS THE TURN WE HAD USED TO KEEP THE ACFT IN SIGHT HAD DIVERTED US OFF COURSE. I ASSUME THE JUMP PLANE HAD BEEN WORKING THAT AREA FOR SOME TIME THAT DAY AS THIS IS AN ACTIVE JUMP ZONE, BUT AT OUR CRUISE SPD, 500 FT IS NOT ENOUGH SEPARATION TO BE SAFE, AND THE TCASII PERFORMED AND DEMANDED AN IMMEDIATE CLB AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARNED ABOUT THE TFC AND/OR THE JUMP ACFT KEPT TO A LOWER ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.