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Attributes | |
ACN | 269771 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : oxi |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 30600 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zin |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 269771 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Attempting to meet the ATC crossing restriction, we used speed brakes to increase the descent rate. This caused such a high rate of descent that the autoplt did not engage in altitude hold. We descended approximately 400 ft below our assigned altitude before manually climbing back to our altitude. The A-320 software does not allow crossing along rtes or tracks. A new waypoint must be created along the track in order to use the VNAV function. ATC often gives 'cross 30 NM east of fix xyz', as a crossing clearance. This is very cumbersome and potentially mistake ridden in an A-320. The VNAV function causes such a tight crossing that the last 4 or 5 NM's are often flown using speed brakes. This causes a high rate of descent to meet the crossing restriction. The autoplt does not capture an altitude at high rates of vertical velocity. This is a potential altitude bust and TCASII RA. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting captain is new to the A-320 which is new to his air carrier. This is his first 'glass cockpit' aircraft and admits that he is low on the learning curve. He is aware that there are differences in the VNAV features of other aircraft and bemoans that his does not have an 'along track crossing' feature. His air carrier is trying to get this feature added to their aircraft to help prevent this situation. In the meantime, he will be a little bit more attentive and try to plan better. He also is disappointed that the altitude capture feature let him go through his selected altitude, but admits that he was descending at about 8000 FPM, a real challenge for a dumb machine. Recovery was so fast that apparently ARTCC probably did not notice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR A-320 OVERSHOT ITS ALT AT A XING RESTRICTION.
Narrative: ATTEMPTING TO MEET THE ATC XING RESTRICTION, WE USED SPD BRAKES TO INCREASE THE DSCNT RATE. THIS CAUSED SUCH A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT THAT THE AUTOPLT DID NOT ENGAGE IN ALT HOLD. WE DSNDED APPROX 400 FT BELOW OUR ASSIGNED ALT BEFORE MANUALLY CLBING BACK TO OUR ALT. THE A-320 SOFTWARE DOES NOT ALLOW XING ALONG RTES OR TRACKS. A NEW WAYPOINT MUST BE CREATED ALONG THE TRACK IN ORDER TO USE THE VNAV FUNCTION. ATC OFTEN GIVES 'CROSS 30 NM E OF FIX XYZ', AS A XING CLRNC. THIS IS VERY CUMBERSOME AND POTENTIALLY MISTAKE RIDDEN IN AN A-320. THE VNAV FUNCTION CAUSES SUCH A TIGHT XING THAT THE LAST 4 OR 5 NM'S ARE OFTEN FLOWN USING SPD BRAKES. THIS CAUSES A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT TO MEET THE XING RESTRICTION. THE AUTOPLT DOES NOT CAPTURE AN ALT AT HIGH RATES OF VERT VELOCITY. THIS IS A POTENTIAL ALT BUST AND TCASII RA. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING CAPT IS NEW TO THE A-320 WHICH IS NEW TO HIS ACR. THIS IS HIS FIRST 'GLASS COCKPIT' ACFT AND ADMITS THAT HE IS LOW ON THE LEARNING CURVE. HE IS AWARE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THE VNAV FEATURES OF OTHER ACFT AND BEMOANS THAT HIS DOES NOT HAVE AN 'ALONG TRACK XING' FEATURE. HIS ACR IS TRYING TO GET THIS FEATURE ADDED TO THEIR ACFT TO HELP PREVENT THIS SIT. IN THE MEANTIME, HE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTIVE AND TRY TO PLAN BETTER. HE ALSO IS DISAPPOINTED THAT THE ALT CAPTURE FEATURE LET HIM GO THROUGH HIS SELECTED ALT, BUT ADMITS THAT HE WAS DSNDING AT ABOUT 8000 FPM, A REAL CHALLENGE FOR A DUMB MACHINE. RECOVERY WAS SO FAST THAT APPARENTLY ARTCC PROBABLY DID NOT NOTICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.