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Attributes | |
ACN | 272918 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pye airport : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : oak |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 4020 flight time type : 3600 |
ASRS Report | 272918 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 460 |
ASRS Report | 272686 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Lear jet 35, after departing oak, we were given climb clearance to 10000 ft. The copilot was flying, I was operating the radios. Operating at a normal climb of 4000-5000 FPM in a lear jet 35. Bay departure pointed out crossing traffic as we were passing 8000 ft. The traffic, crossing right to left at 11000 ft, was at 11 O'clock and no factor. Additional traffic was called at our 1-2 O'clock position, also at 11000 ft. This was a 757. I was scanning for the traffic while the copilot leveled at 10000 ft. We leveled, and the after takeoff checks were performed. At approximately XA10 local (within 3-5 mins of leveling), bay departure asked our altitude. I looked and saw 10100 ft on the captain's altimeter. I reported being level at 10000 ft. No further mention was made by bay. Further en route ZOA asked us to call the bay approach supervisor when we reached bur. Calling at about XA15 local the supervisor advised me the pilot declared our aircraft off altitude and he had a TCASII alert. The supervisor further stated the radar showed us at 10300 ft with a high rate of climb. I informed him I was the PNF and I saw our altitude at 10100 ft and that our altitude alert, which sounds at 300 ft off altitude, never activated. He asked me to call back after he heard from the pilot. On our return flight to oak the altitude alerter acted in the proper manner, showing that we could not have been 300 ft high. Calling the bay supervisor from oak (about XA30 local), I talked to a different supervisor. He just had the report from the other supervisor, and the pilot had not called. He stated the report says the 757 had a TCASII alert and had to deviate. He restated the radar showed us at 10300 ft. We checked our mode C with various ctrs and found no discrepancies.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ATX LTT OVERSHOT CLB INTERMEDIATE ALT RESULTING IN A TCASII ALERT FROM ANOTHER ACFT ABOVE.
Narrative: LEAR JET 35, AFTER DEPARTING OAK, WE WERE GIVEN CLB CLRNC TO 10000 FT. THE COPLT WAS FLYING, I WAS OPERATING THE RADIOS. OPERATING AT A NORMAL CLB OF 4000-5000 FPM IN A LEAR JET 35. BAY DEP POINTED OUT XING TFC AS WE WERE PASSING 8000 FT. THE TFC, XING R TO L AT 11000 FT, WAS AT 11 O'CLOCK AND NO FACTOR. ADDITIONAL TFC WAS CALLED AT OUR 1-2 O'CLOCK POS, ALSO AT 11000 FT. THIS WAS A 757. I WAS SCANNING FOR THE TFC WHILE THE COPLT LEVELED AT 10000 FT. WE LEVELED, AND THE AFTER TKOF CHKS WERE PERFORMED. AT APPROX XA10 LCL (WITHIN 3-5 MINS OF LEVELING), BAY DEP ASKED OUR ALT. I LOOKED AND SAW 10100 FT ON THE CAPT'S ALTIMETER. I RPTED BEING LEVEL AT 10000 FT. NO FURTHER MENTION WAS MADE BY BAY. FURTHER ENRTE ZOA ASKED US TO CALL THE BAY APCH SUPVR WHEN WE REACHED BUR. CALLING AT ABOUT XA15 LCL THE SUPVR ADVISED ME THE PLT DECLARED OUR ACFT OFF ALT AND HE HAD A TCASII ALERT. THE SUPVR FURTHER STATED THE RADAR SHOWED US AT 10300 FT WITH A HIGH RATE OF CLB. I INFORMED HIM I WAS THE PNF AND I SAW OUR ALT AT 10100 FT AND THAT OUR ALT ALERT, WHICH SOUNDS AT 300 FT OFF ALT, NEVER ACTIVATED. HE ASKED ME TO CALL BACK AFTER HE HEARD FROM THE PLT. ON OUR RETURN FLT TO OAK THE ALT ALERTER ACTED IN THE PROPER MANNER, SHOWING THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN 300 FT HIGH. CALLING THE BAY SUPVR FROM OAK (ABOUT XA30 LCL), I TALKED TO A DIFFERENT SUPVR. HE JUST HAD THE RPT FROM THE OTHER SUPVR, AND THE PLT HAD NOT CALLED. HE STATED THE RPT SAYS THE 757 HAD A TCASII ALERT AND HAD TO DEVIATE. HE RESTATED THE RADAR SHOWED US AT 10300 FT. WE CHKED OUR MODE C WITH VARIOUS CTRS AND FOUND NO DISCREPANCIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.