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Attributes | |
ACN | 273583 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hou |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mem |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 273583 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical conflict : nmac incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Departed gate and was given runway 12R, hold short of runway 12L. We held short of runway 12L and were turned over to local control. Local controller then instructed us to cross runway 12L and runway 17 and hold short of runway 12R. As we were crossing runway 12L and runway 17, I noticed a B-737 ahead of us holding short of runway 12R also. I (wrongly) assumed that the local controller would position him on runway 12R, which would have given us ample space to keep the tail of our dc-9 clear of runway 17 touchdown zone. Local controller held the B-737 short of runway 12R and I did not have enough room to keep the tail of my dc-9 clear of runway 17. We were trying to find a break in ATC communications to tell them that we were not clear of runway 17, when a falcon 10 on final to runway 17 inquired to tower if our dc-9 tail was sticking out on the runway. We then told tower that we could not move any further due to the B-737. Tower immediately instructed the B-737 to position and hold runway 12R and for us to move up to clear runway 17 and hold short of runway 12R. Just as our power came up, I looked over my left shoulder and saw the falcon landing on runway 17. Contributing factors were: the local controller was working arrs on runway 124 and runway 17, and departures on runway 12R, runway 17, and runway 22. I don't think that the falcon 10 should have landed. I'm not happy with what happened, but if we second-guess every ATC instruction, the system would not work.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE TAIL OF AN ACR DC-9 INTRUDED ONTO THE LNDG RWY.
Narrative: DEPARTED GATE AND WAS GIVEN RWY 12R, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12L. WE HELD SHORT OF RWY 12L AND WERE TURNED OVER TO LCL CTL. LCL CTLR THEN INSTRUCTED US TO CROSS RWY 12L AND RWY 17 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12R. AS WE WERE XING RWY 12L AND RWY 17, I NOTICED A B-737 AHEAD OF US HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 12R ALSO. I (WRONGLY) ASSUMED THAT THE LCL CTLR WOULD POS HIM ON RWY 12R, WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN US AMPLE SPACE TO KEEP THE TAIL OF OUR DC-9 CLR OF RWY 17 TOUCHDOWN ZONE. LCL CTLR HELD THE B-737 SHORT OF RWY 12R AND I DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO KEEP THE TAIL OF MY DC-9 CLR OF RWY 17. WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A BREAK IN ATC COMS TO TELL THEM THAT WE WERE NOT CLR OF RWY 17, WHEN A FALCON 10 ON FINAL TO RWY 17 INQUIRED TO TWR IF OUR DC-9 TAIL WAS STICKING OUT ON THE RWY. WE THEN TOLD TWR THAT WE COULD NOT MOVE ANY FURTHER DUE TO THE B-737. TWR IMMEDIATELY INSTRUCTED THE B-737 TO POS AND HOLD RWY 12R AND FOR US TO MOVE UP TO CLR RWY 17 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12R. JUST AS OUR PWR CAME UP, I LOOKED OVER MY L SHOULDER AND SAW THE FALCON LNDG ON RWY 17. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE: THE LCL CTLR WAS WORKING ARRS ON RWY 124 AND RWY 17, AND DEPS ON RWY 12R, RWY 17, AND RWY 22. I DON'T THINK THAT THE FALCON 10 SHOULD HAVE LANDED. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT HAPPENED, BUT IF WE SECOND-GUESS EVERY ATC INSTRUCTION, THE SYS WOULD NOT WORK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.