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Attributes | |
ACN | 273660 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 273660 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X approaching dfw from the east we were kept at 4000 ft until 11 mi from the runway so we could land on the west complex and traffic could pass under us at 3000 ft for the east complex. We were also told to keep our speed up. This left us very high, full scale deflection of the GS, and fast for landing on runway 18R. They were performing 'land and hold short' operations on runway 18R and we had to hold short of taxiway 31. Naturally we landed long and did not reverse aggressively because the 'left reverse accumulation low' light had been on for the last hour and I didn't know if the bucket would come out. The tower controller is talking non- stop and told us to turn off at a taxiway we can't make while clearing someone else to takeoff on our runway! We cleared near the end, couldn't talk to the tower since he was talking non-stop, so we proceeded north on the parallel taxiway and switched to ground, who got all upset because we switched without being told by a tower controller with whom we couldn't communication. Problems: high, fast, approach to accommodate ATC. Long landing on artificially shortened runway. Mechanical problem with reverses. Unable to communication with tower since he talks non- stop. All of this is driven not by safety but by the desire to enhance capacity at dfw.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC INSTRUCTION TO EXIT RWY. PLTDEV.
Narrative: ACR X APCHING DFW FROM THE E WE WERE KEPT AT 4000 FT UNTIL 11 MI FROM THE RWY SO WE COULD LAND ON THE W COMPLEX AND TFC COULD PASS UNDER US AT 3000 FT FOR THE E COMPLEX. WE WERE ALSO TOLD TO KEEP OUR SPD UP. THIS LEFT US VERY HIGH, FULL SCALE DEFLECTION OF THE GS, AND FAST FOR LNDG ON RWY 18R. THEY WERE PERFORMING 'LAND AND HOLD SHORT' OPS ON RWY 18R AND WE HAD TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY 31. NATURALLY WE LANDED LONG AND DID NOT REVERSE AGGRESSIVELY BECAUSE THE 'L REVERSE ACCUMULATION LOW' LIGHT HAD BEEN ON FOR THE LAST HR AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE BUCKET WOULD COME OUT. THE TWR CTLR IS TALKING NON- STOP AND TOLD US TO TURN OFF AT A TXWY WE CAN'T MAKE WHILE CLRING SOMEONE ELSE TO TKOF ON OUR RWY! WE CLRED NEAR THE END, COULDN'T TALK TO THE TWR SINCE HE WAS TALKING NON-STOP, SO WE PROCEEDED N ON THE PARALLEL TXWY AND SWITCHED TO GND, WHO GOT ALL UPSET BECAUSE WE SWITCHED WITHOUT BEING TOLD BY A TWR CTLR WITH WHOM WE COULDN'T COM. PROBS: HIGH, FAST, APCH TO ACCOMMODATE ATC. LONG LNDG ON ARTIFICIALLY SHORTENED RWY. MECHANICAL PROB WITH REVERSES. UNABLE TO COM WITH TWR SINCE HE TALKS NON- STOP. ALL OF THIS IS DRIVEN NOT BY SAFETY BUT BY THE DESIRE TO ENHANCE CAPACITY AT DFW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.