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Attributes | |
ACN | 280040 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 280040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Received 'climb, climb now' TCASII RA on close final to sea runway 34R while on visual approach. First thought was someone was cutting across the final in front of us but after the fact, am sure it was caused by an md-80 on a visual to runway 34L catching up to us. Approach control pointed out the md-80 turning in from the west and, when we turned final at about 10 mi, the md-80 was at our 8 O'clock and about 1 mi. TCASII displayed the md-80 on the navigation display and, since I was already aware of it and doing a visual approach, I lost interest in the navigation display and was concentrating on the ILS information on the primary flight display. As I understand TCASII, it was watching the md-80 and finally decided it was too close and issued the RA. The RA caught us by surprise and by the time I looked around after initiating the go around the md-80 was slightly below and in line with the left wing tip. A normal glide path to runway 34L would have the md-80 above us at the time of the RA. To prevent unnecessary RA's and gars, our procedure is to select TA only on visual approachs when we have the other traffic in sight. This incident was caused by the other aircraft closing on us from behind. The md-80 may have moved to the right of centerline also but I can't be sure. Several passenger said they got a real close look at it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII RA CAUSES EVASIVE ACTION GAR.
Narrative: RECEIVED 'CLB, CLB NOW' TCASII RA ON CLOSE FINAL TO SEA RWY 34R WHILE ON VISUAL APCH. FIRST THOUGHT WAS SOMEONE WAS CUTTING ACROSS THE FINAL IN FRONT OF US BUT AFTER THE FACT, AM SURE IT WAS CAUSED BY AN MD-80 ON A VISUAL TO RWY 34L CATCHING UP TO US. APCH CTL POINTED OUT THE MD-80 TURNING IN FROM THE W AND, WHEN WE TURNED FINAL AT ABOUT 10 MI, THE MD-80 WAS AT OUR 8 O'CLOCK AND ABOUT 1 MI. TCASII DISPLAYED THE MD-80 ON THE NAV DISPLAY AND, SINCE I WAS ALREADY AWARE OF IT AND DOING A VISUAL APCH, I LOST INTEREST IN THE NAV DISPLAY AND WAS CONCENTRATING ON THE ILS INFO ON THE PRIMARY FLT DISPLAY. AS I UNDERSTAND TCASII, IT WAS WATCHING THE MD-80 AND FINALLY DECIDED IT WAS TOO CLOSE AND ISSUED THE RA. THE RA CAUGHT US BY SURPRISE AND BY THE TIME I LOOKED AROUND AFTER INITIATING THE GAR THE MD-80 WAS SLIGHTLY BELOW AND IN LINE WITH THE L WING TIP. A NORMAL GLIDE PATH TO RWY 34L WOULD HAVE THE MD-80 ABOVE US AT THE TIME OF THE RA. TO PREVENT UNNECESSARY RA'S AND GARS, OUR PROC IS TO SELECT TA ONLY ON VISUAL APCHS WHEN WE HAVE THE OTHER TFC IN SIGHT. THIS INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY THE OTHER ACFT CLOSING ON US FROM BEHIND. THE MD-80 MAY HAVE MOVED TO THE R OF CTRLINE ALSO BUT I CAN'T BE SURE. SEVERAL PAX SAID THEY GOT A REAL CLOSE LOOK AT IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.