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Attributes | |
ACN | 281977 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tul |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : tul |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 281977 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 282727 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending to 10000 as cleared aircraft was on autoplt and descending 3500 FPM out of approximately 11500 ft MSL. At about 10700 ft MSL, captain attempted to slow descent rate at exact same time autoplt switched to altitude capture mode: which triggered the pitch mode default. We both saw the problem and I suggested the altitude hold mode which captain then engaged. While passing through 10000 ft captain changed more again which caused default to pitch mode again. Aircraft continued to descend at approximately 2000 FPM and, while passing 9800 ft, autoplt was disconnected and altitude trend reversed at 9500 ft MSL.there was no conflict with other traffic and the controller just verified our assigned altitude. In fact he cleared us to 9000 ft before asking. Problem arose with attempted mode change on autoplt, and altitude deviation occurred. Contributing factors: 1) descent intentionally started late to save fuel. 2) high descent rate used 3500 FPM and 420 KIAS. 3) both pilots horizontal distraction. 4) bad timing on mode change by captain (both times). 5) unconventional autoplt -- (in my opinion). 6) fatigue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV. DSCNT THROUGH ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: DSNDING TO 10000 AS CLRED ACFT WAS ON AUTOPLT AND DSNDING 3500 FPM OUT OF APPROX 11500 FT MSL. AT ABOUT 10700 FT MSL, CAPT ATTEMPTED TO SLOW DSCNT RATE AT EXACT SAME TIME AUTOPLT SWITCHED TO ALT CAPTURE MODE: WHICH TRIGGERED THE PITCH MODE DEFAULT. WE BOTH SAW THE PROB AND I SUGGESTED THE ALT HOLD MODE WHICH CAPT THEN ENGAGED. WHILE PASSING THROUGH 10000 FT CAPT CHANGED MORE AGAIN WHICH CAUSED DEFAULT TO PITCH MODE AGAIN. ACFT CONTINUED TO DSND AT APPROX 2000 FPM AND, WHILE PASSING 9800 FT, AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED AND ALT TREND REVERSED AT 9500 FT MSL.THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER TFC AND THE CTLR JUST VERIFIED OUR ASSIGNED ALT. IN FACT HE CLRED US TO 9000 FT BEFORE ASKING. PROB AROSE WITH ATTEMPTED MODE CHANGE ON AUTOPLT, AND ALT DEV OCCURRED. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) DSCNT INTENTIONALLY STARTED LATE TO SAVE FUEL. 2) HIGH DSCNT RATE USED 3500 FPM AND 420 KIAS. 3) BOTH PLTS HORIZ DISTR. 4) BAD TIMING ON MODE CHANGE BY CAPT (BOTH TIMES). 5) UNCONVENTIONAL AUTOPLT -- (IN MY OPINION). 6) FATIGUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.