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After takeoff and on initial climb the flight crew saw a saab 400 ft to the left and 50 ft below fly parallel for about 4 seconds and then turn away.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 287158 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199411 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1200 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Saab 2000 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 287158 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight departed dfw runway 17R on heading 175 -- climbing to 10000 ft, altitude 30.03. At about 1200 ft, a saab was observed 400 ft left and 50 ft below cockpit flying parallel to us. In about 4 seconds, he made a turn towards the east and we took no evasive action. The other aircraft seemed to come from below and behind us. At the time, TCASII was still in the TA mode only so no RA was given. A saab flight was cleared for takeoff on runway 17L behind us and I believe that aircraft we saw was him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER TKOF AND ON INITIAL CLB THE FLC SAW A SAAB 400 FT TO THE L AND 50 FT BELOW FLY PARALLEL FOR ABOUT 4 SECONDS AND THEN TURN AWAY.
Narrative: FLT DEPARTED DFW RWY 17R ON HDG 175 -- CLBING TO 10000 FT, ALT 30.03. AT ABOUT 1200 FT, A SAAB WAS OBSERVED 400 FT L AND 50 FT BELOW COCKPIT FLYING PARALLEL TO US. IN ABOUT 4 SECONDS, HE MADE A TURN TOWARDS THE E AND WE TOOK NO EVASIVE ACTION. THE OTHER ACFT SEEMED TO COME FROM BELOW AND BEHIND US. AT THE TIME, TCASII WAS STILL IN THE TA MODE ONLY SO NO RA WAS GIVEN. A SAAB FLT WAS CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 17L BEHIND US AND I BELIEVE THAT ACFT WE SAW WAS HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.