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Attributes | |
ACN | 296226 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vuz airport : bhm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ztl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 296226 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 296182 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While at cruise inbound to bhm, we received clearance to cross 30 mi southeast of bhm at 11000 ft from ZTL. At this time I did my PA, which upon completion the first officer indicated that ZTL wanted us to start down now for 13000 ft. I misinterpreted this to mean we needed to descend through 13000 ft for traffic. Passing through approximately 13000 ft, I visually acquired our traffic and saw it on TCASII, it was at 12000 ft vice the 14000 ft I was expecting. At this point we were in a high rate of descent and I realized I would provide more separation if I expedited down to 11000 ft vice trying to pull up and bottom out at an altitude close to 12000 ft. I called ZTL later and the supervisor said our closest separation was 3.46 mi but that they were filing a pilot error report since the first officer had read back 13000 ft on the tape. The first officer told me that the phraseology used by the controller led him to believe that the initial clearance of 11000 ft at 30 mi still applied, and therefore did not set 13000 ft in the altitude window. To my knowledge neither aircraft took evasive action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG OVERSHOT ALT ON DSCNT.
Narrative: WHILE AT CRUISE INBOUND TO BHM, WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO CROSS 30 MI SE OF BHM AT 11000 FT FROM ZTL. AT THIS TIME I DID MY PA, WHICH UPON COMPLETION THE FO INDICATED THAT ZTL WANTED US TO START DOWN NOW FOR 13000 FT. I MISINTERPRETED THIS TO MEAN WE NEEDED TO DSND THROUGH 13000 FT FOR TFC. PASSING THROUGH APPROX 13000 FT, I VISUALLY ACQUIRED OUR TFC AND SAW IT ON TCASII, IT WAS AT 12000 FT VICE THE 14000 FT I WAS EXPECTING. AT THIS POINT WE WERE IN A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT AND I REALIZED I WOULD PROVIDE MORE SEPARATION IF I EXPEDITED DOWN TO 11000 FT VICE TRYING TO PULL UP AND BOTTOM OUT AT AN ALT CLOSE TO 12000 FT. I CALLED ZTL LATER AND THE SUPVR SAID OUR CLOSEST SEPARATION WAS 3.46 MI BUT THAT THEY WERE FILING A PLT ERROR RPT SINCE THE FO HAD READ BACK 13000 FT ON THE TAPE. THE FO TOLD ME THAT THE PHRASEOLOGY USED BY THE CTLR LED HIM TO BELIEVE THAT THE INITIAL CLRNC OF 11000 FT AT 30 MI STILL APPLIED, AND THEREFORE DID NOT SET 13000 FT IN THE ALT WINDOW. TO MY KNOWLEDGE NEITHER ACFT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.