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Attributes | |
ACN | 296970 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hhr |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 296970 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
On a VFR approach to lax, I was instructed by socal approach control to depart seal beach VOR on a heading for vectors to lax at 3500 ft. Perhaps 5 mi out of lax I was cleared for runway 25L. I told the controller I was descending out of 3000 ft a few moments later -- then instructed to contact tower -- I had some difficulty in contacting them, but did, and was cleared to land. I was asked to call the tower which I did. They advised me that I had an 'incursion' with a king air over hawthorne. I never saw him, and thought approach control had cleared me to descend for runway 25L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN COMFORTABLE SEPARATION.
Narrative: ON A VFR APCH TO LAX, I WAS INSTRUCTED BY SOCAL APCH CTL TO DEPART SEAL BEACH VOR ON A HDG FOR VECTORS TO LAX AT 3500 FT. PERHAPS 5 MI OUT OF LAX I WAS CLRED FOR RWY 25L. I TOLD THE CTLR I WAS DSNDING OUT OF 3000 FT A FEW MOMENTS LATER -- THEN INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT TWR -- I HAD SOME DIFFICULTY IN CONTACTING THEM, BUT DID, AND WAS CLRED TO LAND. I WAS ASKED TO CALL THE TWR WHICH I DID. THEY ADVISED ME THAT I HAD AN 'INCURSION' WITH A KING AIR OVER HAWTHORNE. I NEVER SAW HIM, AND THOUGHT APCH CTL HAD CLRED ME TO DSND FOR RWY 25L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.