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Attributes | |
ACN | 298784 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 78 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 298784 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 68 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 298785 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on radar vectors for ewr, ILS 4R. Approximately 3 mi from rbv VOR, the controller instructed us to hold at rbv VOR as published. We proceeded to enter hold as published. Due to extreme winds, over 100 KTS at 8000 ft and moderate to severe turbulence, we drifted off the holding pattern. It was extremely difficult to control the aircraft. The controller gave us a heading, as he said we were in conflict with other traffic. He subsequently asked what happened in reference to not being in the prescribed holding pattern. We did not see conflicting traffic and did not receive a TA or RA on TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG EXCEEDED A HOLDING PATTERN LIMIT RESULTING ATC IN INTERVENTION WITH RADAR VECTORS TO MAINTAIN SEPARATION WITH OTHER TFC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON RADAR VECTORS FOR EWR, ILS 4R. APPROX 3 MI FROM RBV VOR, THE CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO HOLD AT RBV VOR AS PUBLISHED. WE PROCEEDED TO ENTER HOLD AS PUBLISHED. DUE TO EXTREME WINDS, OVER 100 KTS AT 8000 FT AND MODERATE TO SEVERE TURB, WE DRIFTED OFF THE HOLDING PATTERN. IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO CTL THE ACFT. THE CTLR GAVE US A HDG, AS HE SAID WE WERE IN CONFLICT WITH OTHER TFC. HE SUBSEQUENTLY ASKED WHAT HAPPENED IN REF TO NOT BEING IN THE PRESCRIBED HOLDING PATTERN. WE DID NOT SEE CONFLICTING TFC AND DID NOT RECEIVE A TA OR RA ON TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.