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Attributes | |
ACN | 302705 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 302705 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At 7 mi from landing at atl runway 27L, captain (PNF) switched to company frequency to check on our arrival gate. I (PF) was busy flying a visual approach behind a 757. Captain came off company frequency at about 4 mi. We completed landing checks and landed. After I gave control of the aircraft back to him on rollout, we turned off and I asked him if we were to hold short of the other parallel runway (runway 27R). It was pretty obvious we needed to because the 757 was holding short. We both looked at the #1 communication and realized we had landed on approach frequency. We switched tower and the controller confirmed hold short of runway 27R. I read the NASA callback issue dealing with just this situation, and still did it! After reading that issue I had been incorporating the suggested habit patterns as a PNF, but not as the PF. The captain had been calling company on short final the whole trip and I was uneasy about him being off the ATC frequency that close to landing and should have said something about it. He also was lax about making the required '1000 ft above minimum/airport' call that prompts me to check landing clearance. We debriefed the event and both learned from it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT WAS NOT CONTACTED AND AN ACR FLC LANDED WITHOUT LNDG CLRNC.
Narrative: AT 7 MI FROM LNDG AT ATL RWY 27L, CAPT (PNF) SWITCHED TO COMPANY FREQ TO CHK ON OUR ARR GATE. I (PF) WAS BUSY FLYING A VISUAL APCH BEHIND A 757. CAPT CAME OFF COMPANY FREQ AT ABOUT 4 MI. WE COMPLETED LNDG CHKS AND LANDED. AFTER I GAVE CTL OF THE ACFT BACK TO HIM ON ROLLOUT, WE TURNED OFF AND I ASKED HIM IF WE WERE TO HOLD SHORT OF THE OTHER PARALLEL RWY (RWY 27R). IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS WE NEEDED TO BECAUSE THE 757 WAS HOLDING SHORT. WE BOTH LOOKED AT THE #1 COM AND REALIZED WE HAD LANDED ON APCH FREQ. WE SWITCHED TWR AND THE CTLR CONFIRMED HOLD SHORT OF RWY 27R. I READ THE NASA CALLBACK ISSUE DEALING WITH JUST THIS SIT, AND STILL DID IT! AFTER READING THAT ISSUE I HAD BEEN INCORPORATING THE SUGGESTED HABIT PATTERNS AS A PNF, BUT NOT AS THE PF. THE CAPT HAD BEEN CALLING COMPANY ON SHORT FINAL THE WHOLE TRIP AND I WAS UNEASY ABOUT HIM BEING OFF THE ATC FREQ THAT CLOSE TO LNDG AND SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. HE ALSO WAS LAX ABOUT MAKING THE REQUIRED '1000 FT ABOVE MINIMUM/ARPT' CALL THAT PROMPTS ME TO CHK LNDG CLRNC. WE DEBRIEFED THE EVENT AND BOTH LEARNED FROM IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.