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Flight crew of an air carrier light transport complained of less than standard separation between the reporter's medium large transport aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 303813 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199505 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ptw |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zny |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 8000 |
| ASRS Report | 303813 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While level at 13000 ft on departure from phl, ZNY called our traffic (an air carrier Y) plane at 2 O'clock and 5 mi, 14500 ft. We told him we had the traffic in sight. He told us to maintain visual with the traffic and climb to 17000 ft. We did and as expected, got a TCASII advisory. We maintained visual at all times and the climb to 17000 ft was uneventful. Pilot in other aircraft made the statement he felt it was too close. We did not think so and felt it was a perfectly safe evolution.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR LTT COMPLAINED OF LTSS BTWN THE RPTR'S MLG ACFT.
Narrative: WHILE LEVEL AT 13000 FT ON DEP FROM PHL, ZNY CALLED OUR TFC (AN ACR Y) PLANE AT 2 O'CLOCK AND 5 MI, 14500 FT. WE TOLD HIM WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. HE TOLD US TO MAINTAIN VISUAL WITH THE TFC AND CLB TO 17000 FT. WE DID AND AS EXPECTED, GOT A TCASII ADVISORY. WE MAINTAINED VISUAL AT ALL TIMES AND THE CLB TO 17000 FT WAS UNEVENTFUL. PLT IN OTHER ACFT MADE THE STATEMENT HE FELT IT WAS TOO CLOSE. WE DID NOT THINK SO AND FELT IT WAS A PERFECTLY SAFE EVOLUTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.