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Attributes | |
ACN | 304650 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dab |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 304650 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft departed 34J VFR to pick up IFR flight plan in the air. Clearance was a little different than as filed. This took some time to resolve. Flight was cleared to maintain 11000 ft. PNF selected 11000 ft in altitude selector and waited for PF to confirm. PF confirmed the altitude and stated the autoplt was selected to level at 11000 ft. PNF could not see the autoplt control panel on the PF's side due to sun glare. Controller gave heading to join an ormond 2 departure. PNF asked PF if he should confirm clearance. Since ormond 2 departure was not on clearance. PF asked PNF to get out departure for another airport. This confused PNF. A brief discussion about departure plates for other airport ensued. PNF then turned to get the inappropriate departure plate. PNF was also trying to set up radios for correct course. The PF, while on autoplt, began to program the INS with waypoints. The PNF turned to monitor instruments and noted altitude through 11200 ft. PNF called 'altitude, level at 11000 ft.' PF appeared to be not monitoring aircraft and finally level at climb and descended back to 11000 ft. Maximum altitude was 11400 ft. Daytona approach called when aircraft was leveling at 11000 ft and said we appeared to have been at 11500 ft. PNF called level at 11000 ft. Daytona did not seem to want to discuss matter further, there was no traffic on TCASII. This particular PF has a tendency to not pay attention to what he is doing. Some days he is combative as well which makes for an uncomfortable cockpit. Serious studies would be interesting on this individual.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT OVERSHOOTS ALT ON CLB.
Narrative: ACFT DEPARTED 34J VFR TO PICK UP IFR FLT PLAN IN THE AIR. CLRNC WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN AS FILED. THIS TOOK SOME TIME TO RESOLVE. FLT WAS CLRED TO MAINTAIN 11000 FT. PNF SELECTED 11000 FT IN ALT SELECTOR AND WAITED FOR PF TO CONFIRM. PF CONFIRMED THE ALT AND STATED THE AUTOPLT WAS SELECTED TO LEVEL AT 11000 FT. PNF COULD NOT SEE THE AUTOPLT CTL PANEL ON THE PF'S SIDE DUE TO SUN GLARE. CTLR GAVE HDG TO JOIN AN ORMOND 2 DEP. PNF ASKED PF IF HE SHOULD CONFIRM CLRNC. SINCE ORMOND 2 DEP WAS NOT ON CLRNC. PF ASKED PNF TO GET OUT DEP FOR ANOTHER ARPT. THIS CONFUSED PNF. A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT DEP PLATES FOR OTHER ARPT ENSUED. PNF THEN TURNED TO GET THE INAPPROPRIATE DEP PLATE. PNF WAS ALSO TRYING TO SET UP RADIOS FOR CORRECT COURSE. THE PF, WHILE ON AUTOPLT, BEGAN TO PROGRAM THE INS WITH WAYPOINTS. THE PNF TURNED TO MONITOR INSTS AND NOTED ALT THROUGH 11200 FT. PNF CALLED 'ALT, LEVEL AT 11000 FT.' PF APPEARED TO BE NOT MONITORING ACFT AND FINALLY LEVEL AT CLB AND DSNDED BACK TO 11000 FT. MAX ALT WAS 11400 FT. DAYTONA APCH CALLED WHEN ACFT WAS LEVELING AT 11000 FT AND SAID WE APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN AT 11500 FT. PNF CALLED LEVEL AT 11000 FT. DAYTONA DID NOT SEEM TO WANT TO DISCUSS MATTER FURTHER, THERE WAS NO TFC ON TCASII. THIS PARTICULAR PF HAS A TENDENCY TO NOT PAY ATTN TO WHAT HE IS DOING. SOME DAYS HE IS COMBATIVE AS WELL WHICH MAKES FOR AN UNCOMFORTABLE COCKPIT. SERIOUS STUDIES WOULD BE INTERESTING ON THIS INDIVIDUAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.