Pilot of an small transport sel turboprop requested ARTCC controller to provide an IFR clearance rea...

Attributes
ACN	314410
Time
Date	199508
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bzn
State Reference	MT
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	ground : preflight ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6300
ASRS Report	314410
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	other other : other
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

At bzn, airport advisories are handled by FSS, all clrncs are handled by ZLC. Received airport and TA from bzn FSS and then contacted ZLC during taxi-out. Received clearance and read back to center. No response. Read back clearance second time. Again, no response. Called ZLC without reading back clearance. ZLC: 'go ahead.' aircraft: 'yes, ma'am, was wondering about my clearance.' ZLC: 'is there something you wish to change?' aircraft: 'no, I just wanted to know if my readback was correct.' ZLC: 'if I don't call you back, then it's ok.' aircraft: 'I would like confirmation that my readback is correct.' ZLC: 'it's not necessary.' aircraft: 'ZLC please confirm readback correct.' ZLC then confirmed that my clearance was acceptable, in nonstandard terminology. Upon arriving gtf, contacted the gtf supervisor via phone. Explained the situation. He also had not heard of not responding to clearance readbacks. He contacted ZLC supervisor. ZLC supervisor contacted me. I explained situation. He said they would pull tapes and speak with controller. I returned to bzn on aug/xx/95. Leaving bzn, I copied my clearance and read it back. ZLC's reply was 'affirmative.' I did not pursue the issue.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT OF AN SMT SEL TURBOPROP REQUESTED ARTCC CTLR TO PROVIDE AN IFR CLRNC READBACK WHICH HE NEVER RECEIVED. CTLR ADVISED THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE DONE IF THERE WAS A PROB!

Narrative: AT BZN, ARPT ADVISORIES ARE HANDLED BY FSS, ALL CLRNCS ARE HANDLED BY ZLC. RECEIVED ARPT AND TA FROM BZN FSS AND THEN CONTACTED ZLC DURING TAXI-OUT. RECEIVED CLRNC AND READ BACK TO CTR. NO RESPONSE. READ BACK CLRNC SECOND TIME. AGAIN, NO RESPONSE. CALLED ZLC WITHOUT READING BACK CLRNC. ZLC: 'GO AHEAD.' ACFT: 'YES, MA'AM, WAS WONDERING ABOUT MY CLRNC.' ZLC: 'IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WISH TO CHANGE?' ACFT: 'NO, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF MY READBACK WAS CORRECT.' ZLC: 'IF I DON'T CALL YOU BACK, THEN IT'S OK.' ACFT: 'I WOULD LIKE CONFIRMATION THAT MY READBACK IS CORRECT.' ZLC: 'IT'S NOT NECESSARY.' ACFT: 'ZLC PLEASE CONFIRM READBACK CORRECT.' ZLC THEN CONFIRMED THAT MY CLRNC WAS ACCEPTABLE, IN NONSTANDARD TERMINOLOGY. UPON ARRIVING GTF, CONTACTED THE GTF SUPVR VIA PHONE. EXPLAINED THE SIT. HE ALSO HAD NOT HEARD OF NOT RESPONDING TO CLRNC READBACKS. HE CONTACTED ZLC SUPVR. ZLC SUPVR CONTACTED ME. I EXPLAINED SIT. HE SAID THEY WOULD PULL TAPES AND SPEAK WITH CTLR. I RETURNED TO BZN ON AUG/XX/95. LEAVING BZN, I COPIED MY CLRNC AND READ IT BACK. ZLC'S REPLY WAS 'AFFIRMATIVE.' I DID NOT PURSUE THE ISSUE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Pilot of an small transport sel turboprop requested ARTCC controller to provide an IFR clearance readback which he never received. Controller advised that it would only be done if there was a problem!