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Attributes | |
ACN | 320665 |
Time | |
Date | 199511 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 320665 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We leveled off at assigned altitude (5000 ft). Ord departure then issued instructions to climb to 6000 ft (a somewhat unusual clearance and altitude for O'hare). I read back 6000 ft and dialed 6000 ft into mode control panel altitude. I noticed traffic on TCASII at our 2 O'clock and about 5 mi, at 6900 ft, and was looking for him out my window when I heard the captain declare (expletive deleted) and looked back in to watch him nose over as we climbed to 6400 ft. He descended back to 6000 ft. I should have been more diligent in watching him climb out. However, he is an excellent pilot and had never previously given me cause to 'watch him!' also, he elected to use VNAV for the climb, even though it was only for 1000 ft. VNAV climb will give full climb power and sometimes an excessive climb rate (3000-4000 FPM), as it did in this case. I should have included the instruments in my scan even while I searched for traffic. This was the captain's first trip back after a long leave which also has me wondering when, after suffering such emotional trauma, is it ok to return to work? You can't stay away forever, but how do you know it's okay to come back until you do so? I think he's doing fine, but I could tell his error upset him. Again, in light of all this, I should have been more diligent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT DURING CLBOUT.
Narrative: WE LEVELED OFF AT ASSIGNED ALT (5000 FT). ORD DEP THEN ISSUED INSTRUCTIONS TO CLB TO 6000 FT (A SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL CLRNC AND ALT FOR O'HARE). I READ BACK 6000 FT AND DIALED 6000 FT INTO MODE CTL PANEL ALT. I NOTICED TFC ON TCASII AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK AND ABOUT 5 MI, AT 6900 FT, AND WAS LOOKING FOR HIM OUT MY WINDOW WHEN I HEARD THE CAPT DECLARE (EXPLETIVE DELETED) AND LOOKED BACK IN TO WATCH HIM NOSE OVER AS WE CLBED TO 6400 FT. HE DSNDED BACK TO 6000 FT. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DILIGENT IN WATCHING HIM CLB OUT. HOWEVER, HE IS AN EXCELLENT PLT AND HAD NEVER PREVIOUSLY GIVEN ME CAUSE TO 'WATCH HIM!' ALSO, HE ELECTED TO USE VNAV FOR THE CLB, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONLY FOR 1000 FT. VNAV CLB WILL GIVE FULL CLB PWR AND SOMETIMES AN EXCESSIVE CLB RATE (3000-4000 FPM), AS IT DID IN THIS CASE. I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE INSTS IN MY SCAN EVEN WHILE I SEARCHED FOR TFC. THIS WAS THE CAPT'S FIRST TRIP BACK AFTER A LONG LEAVE WHICH ALSO HAS ME WONDERING WHEN, AFTER SUFFERING SUCH EMOTIONAL TRAUMA, IS IT OK TO RETURN TO WORK? YOU CAN'T STAY AWAY FOREVER, BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S OKAY TO COME BACK UNTIL YOU DO SO? I THINK HE'S DOING FINE, BUT I COULD TELL HIS ERROR UPSET HIM. AGAIN, IN LIGHT OF ALL THIS, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DILIGENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.