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Reporter flying as captain climbing through 8000 ft experiences a TCASII descend RA from a citation that descended without clearance from 9000 to 7000 ft. The reporter descended to 7100 ft before clear of traffic was received.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 327720 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199602 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mco |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7100 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 22500 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 327720 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On departure mco climbing to 8100 ft turning to 090 degrees had TCASII RA. Traffic was 1-2 mi (on snm scale). At 1-2 O'clock TCASII commanded 2000 FPM vertical descent. RA resolved at 7100 ft MSL. Later conversation with mco departure citation was cleared to 9000 ft, had us in visual contact, then on his own no clearance continued descent to 7000 ft which in turn set off TCASII RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR FLYING AS CAPT CLBING THROUGH 8000 FT EXPERIENCES A TCASII DSND RA FROM A CITATION THAT DSNDED WITHOUT CLRNC FROM 9000 TO 7000 FT. THE RPTR DSNDED TO 7100 FT BEFORE CLR OF TFC WAS RECEIVED.
Narrative: ON DEP MCO CLBING TO 8100 FT TURNING TO 090 DEGS HAD TCASII RA. TFC WAS 1-2 MI (ON SNM SCALE). AT 1-2 O'CLOCK TCASII COMMANDED 2000 FPM VERT DSCNT. RA RESOLVED AT 7100 FT MSL. LATER CONVERSATION WITH MCO DEP CITATION WAS CLRED TO 9000 FT, HAD US IN VISUAL CONTACT, THEN ON HIS OWN NO CLRNC CONTINUED DSCNT TO 7000 FT WHICH IN TURN SET OFF TCASII RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.