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Attributes | |
ACN | 328375 |
Time | |
Date | 199602 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ith |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ecm |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 328375 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 327914 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We approached ithica airport after XA00. The tower at ith closes at XA00. Elmira approach vectored us to ILS runway 32 and cleared us for the approach. Inbound to the marker, the captain keyed the tower frequency to activate the runway lighting, and reported in the blind that we were on the ILS approach to runway 32. We broke out at about 1200 ft AGL and had the runway in sight. The captain keyed the microphone again to dim the runway lights. At about that time the lights went off. Only the VASI was operational. We could see the runway in the landing lights and elected it to be safe to land at this point. After landing, the runway and taxi lights came back on. We taxied to the gate without event. An airport employee seemed to have a problem with this. He told us the only way he knows an airplane is on approach is by the lights being on, and that he could have been out there sanding. We asked him if he monitors the frequency. He replied that he was not in the truck at the time, and the lights were still on from a previous aircraft landing and that he switched the runway lights back on. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter is a first officer on the FK10. His captain also reported this incident to the ASRS. The ith airport manager sent a letter to the reporter's chief pilot stating that there was a truck on the runway when the aircraft landed. The reporter did not see any truck. The reporter believes that a copy of the letter was also sent to the FAA, however he has not heard from them. The lights came back on after the aircraft was on the ground. The vehicle driver claims that he turned them on, as there was no other aircraft in the vicinity. The reporter is now aware that one must have runway lights to land with air carrier passenger at night, and that it is a good idea to be standing at the ready to restart the light cycle. The lights went off when the aircraft was on very short final. The crew didn't have time to do much more than land, then talk about it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG LANDED AT NIGHT WITHOUT RWY LIGHTS. THE PLT OPERATED LIGHTS TIMED OUT JUST BEFORE THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN.
Narrative: WE APCHED ITHICA ARPT AFTER XA00. THE TWR AT ITH CLOSES AT XA00. ELMIRA APCH VECTORED US TO ILS RWY 32 AND CLRED US FOR THE APCH. INBOUND TO THE MARKER, THE CAPT KEYED THE TWR FREQ TO ACTIVATE THE RWY LIGHTING, AND RPTED IN THE BLIND THAT WE WERE ON THE ILS APCH TO RWY 32. WE BROKE OUT AT ABOUT 1200 FT AGL AND HAD THE RWY IN SIGHT. THE CAPT KEYED THE MIKE AGAIN TO DIM THE RWY LIGHTS. AT ABOUT THAT TIME THE LIGHTS WENT OFF. ONLY THE VASI WAS OPERATIONAL. WE COULD SEE THE RWY IN THE LNDG LIGHTS AND ELECTED IT TO BE SAFE TO LAND AT THIS POINT. AFTER LNDG, THE RWY AND TAXI LIGHTS CAME BACK ON. WE TAXIED TO THE GATE WITHOUT EVENT. AN ARPT EMPLOYEE SEEMED TO HAVE A PROB WITH THIS. HE TOLD US THE ONLY WAY HE KNOWS AN AIRPLANE IS ON APCH IS BY THE LIGHTS BEING ON, AND THAT HE COULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SANDING. WE ASKED HIM IF HE MONITORS THE FREQ. HE REPLIED THAT HE WAS NOT IN THE TRUCK AT THE TIME, AND THE LIGHTS WERE STILL ON FROM A PREVIOUS ACFT LNDG AND THAT HE SWITCHED THE RWY LIGHTS BACK ON. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR IS A FO ON THE FK10. HIS CAPT ALSO RPTED THIS INCIDENT TO THE ASRS. THE ITH ARPT MGR SENT A LETTER TO THE RPTR'S CHIEF PLT STATING THAT THERE WAS A TRUCK ON THE RWY WHEN THE ACFT LANDED. THE RPTR DID NOT SEE ANY TRUCK. THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT A COPY OF THE LETTER WAS ALSO SENT TO THE FAA, HOWEVER HE HAS NOT HEARD FROM THEM. THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON AFTER THE ACFT WAS ON THE GND. THE VEHICLE DRIVER CLAIMS THAT HE TURNED THEM ON, AS THERE WAS NO OTHER ACFT IN THE VICINITY. THE RPTR IS NOW AWARE THAT ONE MUST HAVE RWY LIGHTS TO LAND WITH ACR PAX AT NIGHT, AND THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO BE STANDING AT THE READY TO RESTART THE LIGHT CYCLE. THE LIGHTS WENT OFF WHEN THE ACFT WAS ON VERY SHORT FINAL. THE CREW DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO MUCH MORE THAN LAND, THEN TALK ABOUT IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.