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An air carrier flight crew on the river STAR cross over lorle above 250 KIAS in violation of their clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 330790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199603 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl tracon : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 15000 |
| ASRS Report | 330790 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on the river arrival to st louis. We were cleared to cross lorle fix at 11000 ft. The arrival says to 'expect' to cross at 11000 ft and 250 KTS. After crossing the fix we were cleared below 10000 ft. Approach asked our airspeed. The first officer replied 'slowing to 250 KTS.' the controller stated 'you should have been at 250 KTS 10 mi ago.' we heard no clearance to cross at 250 KTS, but the controller evidently thought that clearance had been issued. (It was a different controller than the one who issued the clearance.) the major contributing factor to this was fatigue. We were in the 12TH hour of a 12 hour 19 min duty day. Neither of us really could remember the clearance only a few mins later.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC ON THE RIVER STAR CROSS OVER LORLE ABOVE 250 KIAS IN VIOLATION OF THEIR CLRNC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE RIVER ARR TO ST LOUIS. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS LORLE FIX AT 11000 FT. THE ARR SAYS TO 'EXPECT' TO CROSS AT 11000 FT AND 250 KTS. AFTER XING THE FIX WE WERE CLRED BELOW 10000 FT. APCH ASKED OUR AIRSPD. THE FO REPLIED 'SLOWING TO 250 KTS.' THE CTLR STATED 'YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 250 KTS 10 MI AGO.' WE HEARD NO CLRNC TO CROSS AT 250 KTS, BUT THE CTLR EVIDENTLY THOUGHT THAT CLRNC HAD BEEN ISSUED. (IT WAS A DIFFERENT CTLR THAN THE ONE WHO ISSUED THE CLRNC.) THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS WAS FATIGUE. WE WERE IN THE 12TH HR OF A 12 HR 19 MIN DUTY DAY. NEITHER OF US REALLY COULD REMEMBER THE CLRNC ONLY A FEW MINS LATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.