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Attributes | |
ACN | 352835 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ric |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9400 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tracon : ric |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 352935 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 163 |
ASRS Report | 352836 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
While cruising at FL330 ZDC issued us cross 45 mi west of ric at 10000 ft. The crew cannot recall center giving an altimeter setting. Prior to leaving FL330 the so transcribed the ATIS onto the landing data card including a 30.07 altimeter. We advised leaving FL330 for 10000 ft to ZDC. Passing FL180 altimeters of 30.07 were set. The aircraft was leveled at 10000 ft. ZDC handed us off to ric approach who gave us a vector lower altitude, and a 30.67 altimeter. The first officer queried the altimeter setting as it was not the 30.07 we expected. Shortly after this exchange ric approach asked if we were given a crossing restr at 45 mi by center. Not quite understanding we asked the controller to say again. He did not raise the question again. Approach and landing at ric were uneventful. After discussing our misunderstanding of the altimeter setting the so advised us that the ATIS frequency for ric (119.15) has a large amount of bleed-over from ZTL. Not clarifying the altimeter setting when cleared to 10000 ft and the poor ATIS reception, led to our altitude deviation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN DSCNT. ALT XING RESTR NOT MET. WRONG ALTIMETER SETTING. ATIS BROADCAST PROB.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING AT FL330 ZDC ISSUED US CROSS 45 MI W OF RIC AT 10000 FT. THE CREW CANNOT RECALL CTR GIVING AN ALTIMETER SETTING. PRIOR TO LEAVING FL330 THE SO TRANSCRIBED THE ATIS ONTO THE LNDG DATA CARD INCLUDING A 30.07 ALTIMETER. WE ADVISED LEAVING FL330 FOR 10000 FT TO ZDC. PASSING FL180 ALTIMETERS OF 30.07 WERE SET. THE ACFT WAS LEVELED AT 10000 FT. ZDC HANDED US OFF TO RIC APCH WHO GAVE US A VECTOR LOWER ALT, AND A 30.67 ALTIMETER. THE FO QUERIED THE ALTIMETER SETTING AS IT WAS NOT THE 30.07 WE EXPECTED. SHORTLY AFTER THIS EXCHANGE RIC APCH ASKED IF WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR AT 45 MI BY CTR. NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING WE ASKED THE CTLR TO SAY AGAIN. HE DID NOT RAISE THE QUESTION AGAIN. APCH AND LNDG AT RIC WERE UNEVENTFUL. AFTER DISCUSSING OUR MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE ALTIMETER SETTING THE SO ADVISED US THAT THE ATIS FREQ FOR RIC (119.15) HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF BLEED-OVER FROM ZTL. NOT CLARIFYING THE ALTIMETER SETTING WHEN CLRED TO 10000 FT AND THE POOR ATIS RECEPTION, LED TO OUR ALTDEV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.