An air carrier medium large transport first officer believes that he violated crew duty FARS. He is ...

Attributes
ACN	356820
Time
Date	199612
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sea
State Reference	WA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 2050
ASRS Report	356820
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Weather
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

There was a large snowstorm that hit seattle on dec/fri- sun/96. All flts were delayed due to snow removal and deicing. My 3 day trip that began on dec/fri/96 was scheduled within far flight time and crew rest limits. Due to the extended delays after pushback in sea to get deiced and airborne, I flew over 8 hours in a 24 hour zulu period (8 hours 47 mins), and then without realizing I had done that, I flew another turn to reno without the extended crew rest required by FARS. The reno turn was part of my 3 day trip. I should have stopped flying in sea on dec/mon/96 and not taken the rno turn. My crew scheduling also missed the fact that I was illegal to fly the reno turn. Neither one of us did it intentionally. In the future, I will look at my total flying time a lot closer when I have extended delays due to WX or other reasons. Although it is no excuse, sea airport, dispatch, crew scheduling were all barely able to keep up with crews and aircraft scattered all over our system.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MLG FO BELIEVES THAT HE VIOLATED CREW DUTY FARS. HE IS WRONG.

Narrative: THERE WAS A LARGE SNOWSTORM THAT HIT SEATTLE ON DEC/FRI- SUN/96. ALL FLTS WERE DELAYED DUE TO SNOW REMOVAL AND DEICING. MY 3 DAY TRIP THAT BEGAN ON DEC/FRI/96 WAS SCHEDULED WITHIN FAR FLT TIME AND CREW REST LIMITS. DUE TO THE EXTENDED DELAYS AFTER PUSHBACK IN SEA TO GET DEICED AND AIRBORNE, I FLEW OVER 8 HRS IN A 24 HR ZULU PERIOD (8 HRS 47 MINS), AND THEN WITHOUT REALIZING I HAD DONE THAT, I FLEW ANOTHER TURN TO RENO WITHOUT THE EXTENDED CREW REST REQUIRED BY FARS. THE RENO TURN WAS PART OF MY 3 DAY TRIP. I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED FLYING IN SEA ON DEC/MON/96 AND NOT TAKEN THE RNO TURN. MY CREW SCHEDULING ALSO MISSED THE FACT THAT I WAS ILLEGAL TO FLY THE RENO TURN. NEITHER ONE OF US DID IT INTENTIONALLY. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL LOOK AT MY TOTAL FLYING TIME A LOT CLOSER WHEN I HAVE EXTENDED DELAYS DUE TO WX OR OTHER REASONS. ALTHOUGH IT IS NO EXCUSE, SEA ARPT, DISPATCH, CREW SCHEDULING WERE ALL BARELY ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH CREWS AND ACFT SCATTERED ALL OVER OUR SYS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

An air carrier medium large transport first officer believes that he violated crew duty FARS. He is wrong.