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Attributes | |
ACN | 359390 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mxe airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 359390 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
On departure from phl, maintaining 10000 ft, cleared direct to mxe, then mxe 278 degree radial/48. While approaching mxe from the northeast and just commencing a turn to fly out the 278 degree radial, the controller questioned our position. I told him over mxe turning out the 278 degree radial. He stated that we were 7 mi south of mxe. This was not reflected by our instruments. The controller gave us a heading and later a climb. There were no further discrepancies with the navaids during the flight. I questioned the cabin attendants about any electronic equipment being used by a passenger and they told me they were uncertain if any were in use. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting captain states that he was flying the mxe VOR at the time, not omega. He was not able to check on passenger usage of electronic devices until much later, so this check was inconclusive. He was 'in the cone of confusion' at the time. He believes that VOR signals can be influenced by outside interference occasionally. He did not agree with the notion that he was off course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PHL TRACON DEP CTLR BELIEVES THAT AN ACR MD80 CAPT WAS OFF COURSE OVER MXE. THE CAPT DISAGREES. POSSIBLE RADAR DISPLAY OR EQUIP PROB. POSSIBLE NAVAID PROB OR SITE CHARACTERISTIC. POSSIBLE RF INTERFERENCE FROM ILLEGALLY OPERATED PAX COM OR GAME DEVICES.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM PHL, MAINTAINING 10000 FT, CLRED DIRECT TO MXE, THEN MXE 278 DEG RADIAL/48. WHILE APCHING MXE FROM THE NE AND JUST COMMENCING A TURN TO FLY OUT THE 278 DEG RADIAL, THE CTLR QUESTIONED OUR POS. I TOLD HIM OVER MXE TURNING OUT THE 278 DEG RADIAL. HE STATED THAT WE WERE 7 MI S OF MXE. THIS WAS NOT REFLECTED BY OUR INSTS. THE CTLR GAVE US A HDG AND LATER A CLB. THERE WERE NO FURTHER DISCREPANCIES WITH THE NAVAIDS DURING THE FLT. I QUESTIONED THE CABIN ATTENDANTS ABOUT ANY ELECTRONIC EQUIP BEING USED BY A PAX AND THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE UNCERTAIN IF ANY WERE IN USE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING CAPT STATES THAT HE WAS FLYING THE MXE VOR AT THE TIME, NOT OMEGA. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO CHK ON PAX USAGE OF ELECTRONIC DEVICES UNTIL MUCH LATER, SO THIS CHK WAS INCONCLUSIVE. HE WAS 'IN THE CONE OF CONFUSION' AT THE TIME. HE BELIEVES THAT VOR SIGNALS CAN BE INFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE OCCASIONALLY. HE DID NOT AGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT HE WAS OFF COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.