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Attributes | |
ACN | 359393 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 3300 |
ASRS Report | 359393 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
The FAA conducted a ramp inspection of the aircraft. The first officer and I were in the cockpit when the inspector advised me that the flight attendant's seat had not automatically retracted when the seat was pushed down and the seat belt had some fraying. He suggested that I advise a mechanic at the next maintenance station to look at these items. He said that it is better to deal with them now than when they are a problem later. I understood this to mean that he considered the seat and seat belt in airworthy condition but that soon they may not be. We then flew the aircraft to the next station and xferred the aircraft to another crew, although we did not meet this new crew ourselves. The next station was not a maintenance base. Since I couldn't verbally relay the message about the flight attendant's seat and belt to the new crew, I checked them out myself. The seat retracted fine and the belt seemed to be within acceptable limits for use in my judgement, so I considered the seat retraction problem to be resolved. The aircraft was ramp checked again in lga and the seat again failed to retract. The FAA inspection was conducted by the same representative as before. He was unhappy with the fact that the seat problem wasn't addressed the first time. I consider the FAA's handling of this to be a safety issue. If the inspector felt that there was an immediate problem with flight attendant's jump seat that needed to be addressed, he did not communicate this clearly to me. The inspector was very ambiguous about an issue he apparently felt was an unairworthy jump seat and he did not communicate this clearly to me as if he were testing my handling of the situation. I felt he had a duty to report to me precisely what his finding was. Suggesting that we can fly to another station suggests that we were found to be airworthy and if I later find his concerns to warrant waiting further that is my decision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF LTT COMMUTER FAILS TO WRITE UP FAULTY CABIN ATTENDANT SEAT AND SEAT BELT AFTER AN FAA FLT INSPECTION ACFT AT LGA.
Narrative: THE FAA CONDUCTED A RAMP INSPECTION OF THE ACFT. THE FO AND I WERE IN THE COCKPIT WHEN THE INSPECTOR ADVISED ME THAT THE FLT ATTENDANT'S SEAT HAD NOT AUTOMATICALLY RETRACTED WHEN THE SEAT WAS PUSHED DOWN AND THE SEAT BELT HAD SOME FRAYING. HE SUGGESTED THAT I ADVISE A MECH AT THE NEXT MAINT STATION TO LOOK AT THESE ITEMS. HE SAID THAT IT IS BETTER TO DEAL WITH THEM NOW THAN WHEN THEY ARE A PROB LATER. I UNDERSTOOD THIS TO MEAN THAT HE CONSIDERED THE SEAT AND SEAT BELT IN AIRWORTHY CONDITION BUT THAT SOON THEY MAY NOT BE. WE THEN FLEW THE ACFT TO THE NEXT STATION AND XFERRED THE ACFT TO ANOTHER CREW, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT MEET THIS NEW CREW OURSELVES. THE NEXT STATION WAS NOT A MAINT BASE. SINCE I COULDN'T VERBALLY RELAY THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE FLT ATTENDANT'S SEAT AND BELT TO THE NEW CREW, I CHKED THEM OUT MYSELF. THE SEAT RETRACTED FINE AND THE BELT SEEMED TO BE WITHIN ACCEPTABLE LIMITS FOR USE IN MY JUDGEMENT, SO I CONSIDERED THE SEAT RETRACTION PROB TO BE RESOLVED. THE ACFT WAS RAMP CHKED AGAIN IN LGA AND THE SEAT AGAIN FAILED TO RETRACT. THE FAA INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED BY THE SAME REPRESENTATIVE AS BEFORE. HE WAS UNHAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT THE SEAT PROB WASN'T ADDRESSED THE FIRST TIME. I CONSIDER THE FAA'S HANDLING OF THIS TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE. IF THE INSPECTOR FELT THAT THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE PROB WITH FLT ATTENDANT'S JUMP SEAT THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, HE DID NOT COMMUNICATE THIS CLRLY TO ME. THE INSPECTOR WAS VERY AMBIGUOUS ABOUT AN ISSUE HE APPARENTLY FELT WAS AN UNAIRWORTHY JUMP SEAT AND HE DID NOT COMMUNICATE THIS CLRLY TO ME AS IF HE WERE TESTING MY HANDLING OF THE SIT. I FELT HE HAD A DUTY TO RPT TO ME PRECISELY WHAT HIS FINDING WAS. SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN FLY TO ANOTHER STATION SUGGESTS THAT WE WERE FOUND TO BE AIRWORTHY AND IF I LATER FIND HIS CONCERNS TO WARRANT WAITING FURTHER THAT IS MY DECISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.