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Attributes | |
ACN | 368150 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : n90 airport : owd |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zny |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 680 flight time type : 492 |
ASRS Report | 368150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Departed 2n8, flew north up the hudson river VFR corridor at 1000 ft to owd. Upon arriving at owd I was told to call the radar supervisor. He advised me that the radar showed I was at 2500 ft over the river. Therefore I entered ewr's and lga's airspace. I explained to him I was definitely not over 1000 ft and I had work done to the avionics. He then told me to have my transponder and encoder checked. Upon returning to 2n8 I called lga for a transponder check. I was told at 1000 ft the transponder was reporting 2500 ft. They advised me to turn off mode C and proceed south down the river. On may/xx/97 I took the aircraft to FBO, where they found the encoder to read wrong. In further troubleshooting they found the B2 line from the encoder was inoperative. This causes the transponder to read 2500 ft when the aircraft is actually at 1000 ft. The equipment is now being repaired. I believe a real problem exists with mode C. At any time a malfunction may occur and report erroneous altitudes. The pilot has no way of knowing when this happens, and this may cause a violation. That never really occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIPER ARROW ACFT XPONDER MODE C ERRONEOUS ALT READOUT. ATC WAS READING 2500 FT WHEN ACFT WAS AT 1000 FT AND ATC THOUGHT RPTR PLT HAD ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: DEPARTED 2N8, FLEW N UP THE HUDSON RIVER VFR CORRIDOR AT 1000 FT TO OWD. UPON ARRIVING AT OWD I WAS TOLD TO CALL THE RADAR SUPVR. HE ADVISED ME THAT THE RADAR SHOWED I WAS AT 2500 FT OVER THE RIVER. THEREFORE I ENTERED EWR'S AND LGA'S AIRSPACE. I EXPLAINED TO HIM I WAS DEFINITELY NOT OVER 1000 FT AND I HAD WORK DONE TO THE AVIONICS. HE THEN TOLD ME TO HAVE MY XPONDER AND ENCODER CHKED. UPON RETURNING TO 2N8 I CALLED LGA FOR A XPONDER CHK. I WAS TOLD AT 1000 FT THE XPONDER WAS RPTING 2500 FT. THEY ADVISED ME TO TURN OFF MODE C AND PROCEED S DOWN THE RIVER. ON MAY/XX/97 I TOOK THE ACFT TO FBO, WHERE THEY FOUND THE ENCODER TO READ WRONG. IN FURTHER TROUBLESHOOTING THEY FOUND THE B2 LINE FROM THE ENCODER WAS INOP. THIS CAUSES THE XPONDER TO READ 2500 FT WHEN THE ACFT IS ACTUALLY AT 1000 FT. THE EQUIP IS NOW BEING REPAIRED. I BELIEVE A REAL PROB EXISTS WITH MODE C. AT ANY TIME A MALFUNCTION MAY OCCUR AND RPT ERRONEOUS ALTS. THE PLT HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING WHEN THIS HAPPENS, AND THIS MAY CAUSE A VIOLATION. THAT NEVER REALLY OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.