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Attributes | |
ACN | 375256 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad tower : teb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 375256 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4380 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were cleared for ILS runway 12 iad by approach. Tower failed to respond to 4 or 5 of our calls and below 100 ft AGL we executed a go around. There were 2 tower frequencys in use at this time and tower was busy handling another go around aircraft and numerous other targets in-flight and on the ground. Climbing through approximately 300-400 ft AGL I (so) observed another air carrier B737 converging with us off of runway 19R. I called out the traffic before we got a TA from the TCASII. The captain took evasive action to avoid a collision. We landed uneventfully. The tower controller appeared to have been momentarily saturated as we were approaching the runway. Having 2 separate frequencys for converging runways added to the problem as we were unaware that the B737 was coming off of runway 19R on a converging flight path. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter called back and said that the PIC had talked with ATC after the event. He was not privy to all the conversation. There were a couple of reasons for the missed approach. Even though the visibility was reported as 5 mi, it was hazy and the airport was not that visible. The crew also felt confused as there had been an aircraft on the runway and they heard someone go around. (Didn't know where.) the tower controller was 'fixated' on that aircraft and didn't even realize that the subject aircraft landing was trying to get landing clearance. The crew just 'didn't feel right' about continuing on to a landing under these circumstances. The PIC and first officer had been into iad quite frequently though this was the first time the so had flown with this crew.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10 ON FINAL APCH TO RWY 12 IAD. FREQ CONGESTION INTERFERES WITH LDNG CLRNC. AFTER 5 RADIO CALLS PIC ELECTS TO MAKE A MISSED APCH. POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH TFC DEPARTING RWY 19R.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS RWY 12 IAD BY APCH. TWR FAILED TO RESPOND TO 4 OR 5 OF OUR CALLS AND BELOW 100 FT AGL WE EXECUTED A GAR. THERE WERE 2 TWR FREQS IN USE AT THIS TIME AND TWR WAS BUSY HANDLING ANOTHER GAR ACFT AND NUMEROUS OTHER TARGETS INFLT AND ON THE GND. CLBING THROUGH APPROX 300-400 FT AGL I (SO) OBSERVED ANOTHER ACR B737 CONVERGING WITH US OFF OF RWY 19R. I CALLED OUT THE TFC BEFORE WE GOT A TA FROM THE TCASII. THE CAPT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A COLLISION. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. THE TWR CTLR APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN MOMENTARILY SATURATED AS WE WERE APCHING THE RWY. HAVING 2 SEPARATE FREQS FOR CONVERGING RWYS ADDED TO THE PROB AS WE WERE UNAWARE THAT THE B737 WAS COMING OFF OF RWY 19R ON A CONVERGING FLT PATH. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR CALLED BACK AND SAID THAT THE PIC HAD TALKED WITH ATC AFTER THE EVENT. HE WAS NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE CONVERSATION. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THE MISSED APCH. EVEN THOUGH THE VISIBILITY WAS RPTED AS 5 MI, IT WAS HAZY AND THE ARPT WAS NOT THAT VISIBLE. THE CREW ALSO FELT CONFUSED AS THERE HAD BEEN AN ACFT ON THE RWY AND THEY HEARD SOMEONE GAR. (DIDN'T KNOW WHERE.) THE TWR CTLR WAS 'FIXATED' ON THAT ACFT AND DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THE SUBJECT ACFT LNDG WAS TRYING TO GET LNDG CLRNC. THE CREW JUST 'DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT' ABOUT CONTINUING ON TO A LNDG UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. THE PIC AND FO HAD BEEN INTO IAD QUITE FREQUENTLY THOUGH THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THE SO HAD FLOWN WITH THIS CREW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.