An air carrier MD80 flight crew reports that they have been accused of taking off without a clearance. They deny that this is true.

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Attributes
ACN	376790
Time
Date	199706
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
ASRS Report	376790
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	376791
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : investigated
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Approximately 45 mins ago, I was notified that the FAA had some question concerning the takeoff of our flight from lga on jun/xa/97 to ord. Specifically, that we took off without takeoff clearance. I believe this is in error. I believe that we took off from lga on the date referenced with the proper takeoff clearance. I have no recall of any event concerning our flight which would indicate that it was not continuously operated within FAA regulations and guidelines.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MD80 FLC RPTS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF TAKING OFF WITHOUT A CLRNC. THEY DENY THAT THIS IS TRUE.

Narrative: APPROX 45 MINS AGO, I WAS NOTIFIED THAT THE FAA HAD SOME QUESTION CONCERNING THE TKOF OF OUR FLT FROM LGA ON JUN/XA/97 TO ORD. SPECIFICALLY, THAT WE TOOK OFF WITHOUT TKOF CLRNC. I BELIEVE THIS IS IN ERROR. I BELIEVE THAT WE TOOK OFF FROM LGA ON THE DATE REFED WITH THE PROPER TKOF CLRNC. I HAVE NO RECALL OF ANY EVENT CONCERNING OUR FLT WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT IT WAS NOT CONTINUOUSLY OPERATED WITHIN FAA REGS AND GUIDELINES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.