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Attributes | |
ACN | 383810 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tnv |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 383810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On IFR flight plan to sgr from asl, ZHU assigned an arrival over the tnv VOR. I was unable to locate the assigned arrival although I was carrying the appropriate approach plates. I had to request that they verbally give me the arrival they were assigning. No problem occurred other than not having found the arrival that was assigned. I think that what caused the problem was an inability to locate the proper arrival which I wasn't able to find throughout the approach plates. Other pilots having access to those approach plates I'm sure was the reason why that particular arrival was not to be found. A complete set of approach plates should be kept in the aircraft at all times, not to be removed in part or in whole by any individual. I fully believe that telling ATC that I didn't have a written depiction of the arrival and asking for it verbally was the proper action to take.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA PLT FAILS TO HAVE HIS ARR PLATE TO REFER TO DURING ARR IN ZHU, TX, AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ON IFR FLT PLAN TO SGR FROM ASL, ZHU ASSIGNED AN ARR OVER THE TNV VOR. I WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE THE ASSIGNED ARR ALTHOUGH I WAS CARRYING THE APPROPRIATE APCH PLATES. I HAD TO REQUEST THAT THEY VERBALLY GIVE ME THE ARR THEY WERE ASSIGNING. NO PROB OCCURRED OTHER THAN NOT HAVING FOUND THE ARR THAT WAS ASSIGNED. I THINK THAT WHAT CAUSED THE PROB WAS AN INABILITY TO LOCATE THE PROPER ARR WHICH I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND THROUGHOUT THE APCH PLATES. OTHER PLTS HAVING ACCESS TO THOSE APCH PLATES I'M SURE WAS THE REASON WHY THAT PARTICULAR ARR WAS NOT TO BE FOUND. A COMPLETE SET OF APCH PLATES SHOULD BE KEPT IN THE ACFT AT ALL TIMES, NOT TO BE REMOVED IN PART OR IN WHOLE BY ANY INDIVIDUAL. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT TELLING ATC THAT I DIDN'T HAVE A WRITTEN DEPICTION OF THE ARR AND ASKING FOR IT VERBALLY WAS THE PROPER ACTION TO TAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.