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Attributes | |
ACN | 398890 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7600 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Caravan 1 208A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 398890 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 398897 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
At 10000 ft MSL over ogden VOR, cleared for visual runway 16R, told to cross sannd at 8000 ft. DME was OTS, which was necessary to identify sannd. We did not catch that, and mistakenly used the DME off of the slc VORTAC. Left the 8000 ft altitude after 14.1 DME off the slc VORTAC, approximately 2.5 DME early. ATC warned us, we stopped the descent and climbed up, then figured out our error and proceeded to fly the correct descent profile. During the approach, we were also looking for cessna caravan traffic. No conflict with traffic, approach normal after described event. Supplemental information from acn 398897: the runway 16R localizer DME was inoperative (no NOTAM). Approach queried us about the sannd crossing restr and also advised that we had gone below the floor of class B airspace. Contributing factors: traffic distraction, our failure to recognize loss of DME on localizer, mistaken use of slc DME for intersection position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG DSNDS BELOW THE BASE OF THE SLC CLASS B WHEN THE FLC USES THE SLC VOR DME FOR A XING ALT VERSUS THE ILS DME WHICH WAS OTS BUT NOT NOTAMED.
Narrative: AT 10000 FT MSL OVER OGDEN VOR, CLRED FOR VISUAL RWY 16R, TOLD TO CROSS SANND AT 8000 FT. DME WAS OTS, WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO IDENT SANND. WE DID NOT CATCH THAT, AND MISTAKENLY USED THE DME OFF OF THE SLC VORTAC. LEFT THE 8000 FT ALT AFTER 14.1 DME OFF THE SLC VORTAC, APPROX 2.5 DME EARLY. ATC WARNED US, WE STOPPED THE DSCNT AND CLBED UP, THEN FIGURED OUT OUR ERROR AND PROCEEDED TO FLY THE CORRECT DSCNT PROFILE. DURING THE APCH, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR CESSNA CARAVAN TFC. NO CONFLICT WITH TFC, APCH NORMAL AFTER DESCRIBED EVENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 398897: THE RWY 16R LOC DME WAS INOP (NO NOTAM). APCH QUERIED US ABOUT THE SANND XING RESTR AND ALSO ADVISED THAT WE HAD GONE BELOW THE FLOOR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: TFC DISTR, OUR FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE LOSS OF DME ON LOC, MISTAKEN USE OF SLC DME FOR INTXN POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.