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Attributes | |
ACN | 399358 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : isp airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | instruction : instructor other personnel other |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 20 controller supervisory : 9 |
ASRS Report | 399358 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
I was providing OJT instruction at the kennedy departure position during a busy session of evening traffic. At approximately XX15 a commuter departed runway 13L at jfk on a 090 degree heading. Although the trainee initially states, 'radar contact' to the aircraft and climbs him to 7000 ft, we were not receiving a transponder, primary target only. Subsequently we forgot about the aircraft until he called us asking for a turn on course. We then had him turn his transponder on and idented him 7 NM southeast of isb airport. At this point he was approaching the boundary of another controller's airspace, so I instructed the handoff man to point him out to the adjacent controller. As we were doing this he crossed the boundary resulting in an airspace deviation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER ACFT ENTERS ADJOINING SECTOR AIRSPACE WITHOUT HDOF COORD. INSTRUCTOR AND TRAINEE FORGOT THE ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS PROVIDING OJT INSTRUCTION AT THE KENNEDY DEP POS DURING A BUSY SESSION OF EVENING TFC. AT APPROX XX15 A COMMUTER DEPARTED RWY 13L AT JFK ON A 090 DEG HDG. ALTHOUGH THE TRAINEE INITIALLY STATES, 'RADAR CONTACT' TO THE ACFT AND CLBS HIM TO 7000 FT, WE WERE NOT RECEIVING A XPONDER, PRIMARY TARGET ONLY. SUBSEQUENTLY WE FORGOT ABOUT THE ACFT UNTIL HE CALLED US ASKING FOR A TURN ON COURSE. WE THEN HAD HIM TURN HIS XPONDER ON AND IDENTED HIM 7 NM SE OF ISB ARPT. AT THIS POINT HE WAS APCHING THE BOUNDARY OF ANOTHER CTLR'S AIRSPACE, SO I INSTRUCTED THE HDOF MAN TO POINT HIM OUT TO THE ADJACENT CTLR. AS WE WERE DOING THIS HE CROSSED THE BOUNDARY RESULTING IN AN AIRSPACE DEV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.