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Attributes | |
ACN | 399404 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ikk |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 10 agl bound upper : 300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-23 Apache (& Geronimo Apache) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 399404 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The apache was in the pattern when I was on the ground getting fuel. I heard him ask unicom for WX conditions, which probably means he was unfamiliar with the field, which has AWOS. I picked up the unicom microphone and answered because the line man was fueling my plane. I then walked over to the FSS and returned to pay for fuel. When I got into the plane, I got on CTAF and asked the apache to identify his position. No response. I announced my intent to take off on runway 24. No response. As I retracted my gear on climb out, I saw the apache land beneath me on runway 16. No evasive action required, but if he had done a go around, or if I had aborted the takeoff, we would have had a problem. Contributing factors: lack of vigilance and over reliance by me on CTAF.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 PIPER ACFT EXPERIENCE AN NMAC AT A NON TWR ARPT, ONE LNDG, THE OTHER DEP TFC.
Narrative: THE APACHE WAS IN THE PATTERN WHEN I WAS ON THE GND GETTING FUEL. I HEARD HIM ASK UNICOM FOR WX CONDITIONS, WHICH PROBABLY MEANS HE WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FIELD, WHICH HAS AWOS. I PICKED UP THE UNICOM MIKE AND ANSWERED BECAUSE THE LINE MAN WAS FUELING MY PLANE. I THEN WALKED OVER TO THE FSS AND RETURNED TO PAY FOR FUEL. WHEN I GOT INTO THE PLANE, I GOT ON CTAF AND ASKED THE APACHE TO IDENT HIS POS. NO RESPONSE. I ANNOUNCED MY INTENT TO TAKE OFF ON RWY 24. NO RESPONSE. AS I RETRACTED MY GEAR ON CLBOUT, I SAW THE APACHE LAND BENEATH ME ON RWY 16. NO EVASIVE ACTION REQUIRED, BUT IF HE HAD DONE A GAR, OR IF I HAD ABORTED THE TKOF, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A PROB. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: LACK OF VIGILANCE AND OVER RELIANCE BY ME ON CTAF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.