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Attributes | |
ACN | 408410 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 408410 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On long vector for final, landing to northwest. Descending out of 4000 ft to 3000 ft, received call from approach control around 3000 ft and 250 KTS (power just pulled to idle to slow to 200 KTS), requesting airspeed. First officer responded only '250 KTS,' did not say 'slowing to 200 KTS.' controller remarked, 'airspeed beneath class B should be 200 KTS, slow to 200 KTS.' with multiple vectors, was not exactly sure where aircraft was in relation to class B airspace, but as we neared what I thought were the class B limits, I began to slow aircraft to 200 KTS, apparently a little too late.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: G4 CREW EXCEEDS 200 KTS BELOW MSP CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ON LONG VECTOR FOR FINAL, LNDG TO NW. DSNDING OUT OF 4000 FT TO 3000 FT, RECEIVED CALL FROM APCH CTL AROUND 3000 FT AND 250 KTS (PWR JUST PULLED TO IDLE TO SLOW TO 200 KTS), REQUESTING AIRSPD. FO RESPONDED ONLY '250 KTS,' DID NOT SAY 'SLOWING TO 200 KTS.' CTLR REMARKED, 'AIRSPD BENEATH CLASS B SHOULD BE 200 KTS, SLOW TO 200 KTS.' WITH MULTIPLE VECTORS, WAS NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE ACFT WAS IN RELATION TO CLASS B AIRSPACE, BUT AS WE NEARED WHAT I THOUGHT WERE THE CLASS B LIMITS, I BEGAN TO SLOW ACFT TO 200 KTS, APPARENTLY A LITTLE TOO LATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.