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A landing B737 flight crew were advised that a second B737 has crossed the runway hold line at abq. A landing was made over the objections of the intruding aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 439658 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : abq.airport |
| State Reference | NM |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : abq.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : abq.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 145 flight time total : 2700 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 439658 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Once established on the visual approach and after receiving a clearance to land on runway 8 at albuquerque international sunport, the tower controller mentioned that an air carrier Y B737 had the nose of their aircraft a few ft beyond the hold line dividing taxiway A1 and runway 8, and asked if 'we (air carrier X) were ok with that.' my captain and I considered the option of a go around and both of us determined that a go around was not necessary. Again abq tower cleared us, air carrier X, to land runway 8. Then air carrier Y said over the tower frequency that 'they weren't comfortable with somebody landing over their nose.' abq's runway 8 begins with a displaced threshold 1000 ft east of the original threshold. We continued our approach and landed safely on the 13775 ft of runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A LNDG B737 FLC WERE ADVISED THAT A SECOND B737 HAS CROSSED THE RWY HOLD LINE AT ABQ. A LNDG WAS MADE OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE INTRUDING ACFT.
Narrative: ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE VISUAL APCH AND AFTER RECEIVING A CLRNC TO LAND ON RWY 8 AT ALBUQUERQUE INTL SUNPORT, THE TWR CTLR MENTIONED THAT AN ACR Y B737 HAD THE NOSE OF THEIR ACFT A FEW FT BEYOND THE HOLD LINE DIVIDING TXWY A1 AND RWY 8, AND ASKED IF 'WE (ACR X) WERE OK WITH THAT.' MY CAPT AND I CONSIDERED THE OPTION OF A GAR AND BOTH OF US DETERMINED THAT A GAR WAS NOT NECESSARY. AGAIN ABQ TWR CLRED US, ACR X, TO LAND RWY 8. THEN ACR Y SAID OVER THE TWR FREQ THAT 'THEY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH SOMEBODY LNDG OVER THEIR NOSE.' ABQ'S RWY 8 BEGINS WITH A DISPLACED THRESHOLD 1000 FT E OF THE ORIGINAL THRESHOLD. WE CONTINUED OUR APCH AND LANDED SAFELY ON THE 13775 FT OF RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.