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Attributes | |
ACN | 455440 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oma.airport |
State Reference | NE |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : r90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 14r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 455440 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATIS on descent to oma reported 100 ft scattered 1/2 mi visibility and mist. Upon check-in into oma approach, the reported RVR was 1400 ft for runway 14R. I advised the controller we needed 1800 ft RVR to shoot the approach. After descent clearance to 3000 ft, the controller reported 2600 ft RVR for runway 14R. Upon continued vectoring for runway 14R, the approach controller reported 1400 ft RVR (indirectly asking us of our intentions). We had the complete runway 14R runway and centerline lights in sight from about 10 mi out. The captain stated this to me, and told me to report the field in sight and ask for a visual approach. Knowing a visual approach is not available when the airport in IMC, I advised the approach controller that we had runway 14R in sight. The controller cleared us to intercept the runway 14R localizer and maintain 3000 ft, which the captain did. I advised the captain that we were not legal to commence this approach. The controller stated 1400 ft RVR runway 14R (intentions?). The captain told me to report runway 14R and ask for a visual approach. I told the controller we had runway 14R in sight. At about 2-3 mi outside the FAF, the controller cleared us for the ILS runway 14R and contact the tower. Upon contacting the tower at the FAF, the tower reported RVR runway 14R at 1400 ft, and cleared us to land. I stated to the captain, at least 3 times throughout the approach, that we were not legal to shoot this approach (using certain expletives to emphasize my objections). The captain stated we were landing! We had fuel for our alternate plus about 1 hour 15 mins reserve. The captain was determined to land, at about 1000 ft AGL. I conceded to myself that at this point the safest thing to do was to complete my before landing duties. Along for the ride we landed safely, but clearly illegal on runway 14R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT FLIES APCH WITH WX RPTED BELOW MINIMUMS IN SPITE OF FO'S OBJECTIONS.
Narrative: ATIS ON DSCNT TO OMA RPTED 100 FT SCATTERED 1/2 MI VISIBILITY AND MIST. UPON CHK-IN INTO OMA APCH, THE RPTED RVR WAS 1400 FT FOR RWY 14R. I ADVISED THE CTLR WE NEEDED 1800 FT RVR TO SHOOT THE APCH. AFTER DSCNT CLRNC TO 3000 FT, THE CTLR RPTED 2600 FT RVR FOR RWY 14R. UPON CONTINUED VECTORING FOR RWY 14R, THE APCH CTLR RPTED 1400 FT RVR (INDIRECTLY ASKING US OF OUR INTENTIONS). WE HAD THE COMPLETE RWY 14R RWY AND CTRLINE LIGHTS IN SIGHT FROM ABOUT 10 MI OUT. THE CAPT STATED THIS TO ME, AND TOLD ME TO RPT THE FIELD IN SIGHT AND ASK FOR A VISUAL APCH. KNOWING A VISUAL APCH IS NOT AVAILABLE WHEN THE ARPT IN IMC, I ADVISED THE APCH CTLR THAT WE HAD RWY 14R IN SIGHT. THE CTLR CLRED US TO INTERCEPT THE RWY 14R LOC AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT, WHICH THE CAPT DID. I ADVISED THE CAPT THAT WE WERE NOT LEGAL TO COMMENCE THIS APCH. THE CTLR STATED 1400 FT RVR RWY 14R (INTENTIONS?). THE CAPT TOLD ME TO RPT RWY 14R AND ASK FOR A VISUAL APCH. I TOLD THE CTLR WE HAD RWY 14R IN SIGHT. AT ABOUT 2-3 MI OUTSIDE THE FAF, THE CTLR CLRED US FOR THE ILS RWY 14R AND CONTACT THE TWR. UPON CONTACTING THE TWR AT THE FAF, THE TWR RPTED RVR RWY 14R AT 1400 FT, AND CLRED US TO LAND. I STATED TO THE CAPT, AT LEAST 3 TIMES THROUGHOUT THE APCH, THAT WE WERE NOT LEGAL TO SHOOT THIS APCH (USING CERTAIN EXPLETIVES TO EMPHASIZE MY OBJECTIONS). THE CAPT STATED WE WERE LNDG! WE HAD FUEL FOR OUR ALTERNATE PLUS ABOUT 1 HR 15 MINS RESERVE. THE CAPT WAS DETERMINED TO LAND, AT ABOUT 1000 FT AGL. I CONCEDED TO MYSELF THAT AT THIS POINT THE SAFEST THING TO DO WAS TO COMPLETE MY BEFORE LNDG DUTIES. ALONG FOR THE RIDE WE LANDED SAFELY, BUT CLRLY ILLEGAL ON RWY 14R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.