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Attributes | |
ACN | 442084 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lws.airport |
State Reference | ID |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lws.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 442084 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
I (first officer) made the landing on lws runway 8. The captain took control of the aircraft after I decelerated to taxi speed. We were planning to exit runway 8 at taxiway G. As we approached taxiway G, lws tower told us to hold short of runway 29 at taxiway G because a cessna was going to depart runway 29. The captain taxied across the first set of hold short lines and held at the second set of hold short lines, which was incorrect. Lws tower came on the radio and told us we had just crossed the hold short line and that we were holding short of runway 29 in the wrong spot. The hold short lines for holding short of runway 29 or runway 26 are reversed from what is standard at all other airports we fly to. Exiting runway 8 at taxiway G and holding short of runway 29 means that all but the nose of the aircraft is still out on runway 8/26. Lws tower said they knew the high speed lines were a problem and that they would be fixed soon. The cessna at runway 29 departed normally, and our 2 aircraft were not in conflict nor would they have been at any time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSELY SPACED RWYS CAUSE HOLD SHORT MARKINGS TO BE PLACED -- THEY CONFUSE DHC8 CREW. RWY INCURSION IS THE RESULT.
Narrative: I (FO) MADE THE LNDG ON LWS RWY 8. THE CAPT TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT AFTER I DECELERATED TO TAXI SPD. WE WERE PLANNING TO EXIT RWY 8 AT TXWY G. AS WE APCHED TXWY G, LWS TWR TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 29 AT TXWY G BECAUSE A CESSNA WAS GOING TO DEPART RWY 29. THE CAPT TAXIED ACROSS THE FIRST SET OF HOLD SHORT LINES AND HELD AT THE SECOND SET OF HOLD SHORT LINES, WHICH WAS INCORRECT. LWS TWR CAME ON THE RADIO AND TOLD US WE HAD JUST CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND THAT WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 29 IN THE WRONG SPOT. THE HOLD SHORT LINES FOR HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 29 OR RWY 26 ARE REVERSED FROM WHAT IS STANDARD AT ALL OTHER ARPTS WE FLY TO. EXITING RWY 8 AT TXWY G AND HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 29 MEANS THAT ALL BUT THE NOSE OF THE ACFT IS STILL OUT ON RWY 8/26. LWS TWR SAID THEY KNEW THE HIGH SPD LINES WERE A PROB AND THAT THEY WOULD BE FIXED SOON. THE CESSNA AT RWY 29 DEPARTED NORMALLY, AND OUR 2 ACFT WERE NOT IN CONFLICT NOR WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN AT ANY TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.