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Attributes | |
ACN | 444030 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : soxto |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 444030 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to cross softo intersection at 11000 ft. I acknowledged with the altitude in the readback. My first officer said, 'I think it was softo at 13000 ft.' the normal crossing at softo is 13000 ft and several aircraft ahead of, and behind us were given 13000 ft at softo. I tried to verify with the controller at least 3 times, but frequency congestion prevented me from making contact. Several aircraft were blocking each other. I finally decided that it must have been my error. Later the controller asked if we had crossed softo at 11000 ft. I told him no, and explained that we had tried to verify but were unable. I'll be more aggressive in verifying next time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CREW DID NOT MAKE A XING RESTR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS SOFTO INTXN AT 11000 FT. I ACKNOWLEDGED WITH THE ALT IN THE READBACK. MY FO SAID, 'I THINK IT WAS SOFTO AT 13000 FT.' THE NORMAL XING AT SOFTO IS 13000 FT AND SEVERAL ACFT AHEAD OF, AND BEHIND US WERE GIVEN 13000 FT AT SOFTO. I TRIED TO VERIFY WITH THE CTLR AT LEAST 3 TIMES, BUT FREQ CONGESTION PREVENTED ME FROM MAKING CONTACT. SEVERAL ACFT WERE BLOCKING EACH OTHER. I FINALLY DECIDED THAT IT MUST HAVE BEEN MY ERROR. LATER THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD CROSSED SOFTO AT 11000 FT. I TOLD HIM NO, AND EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD TRIED TO VERIFY BUT WERE UNABLE. I'LL BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN VERIFYING NEXT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.