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Attributes | |
ACN | 459561 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rsw.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 459561 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 459560 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Chart Or Publication Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Situations | |
Chart | airport : rsw.airport |
Narrative:
Pushback into unknown movement area at rsw. Company page has no departure procedures other than to refer the reader to the commercial page 20-9A. The commercial page has numerous procedures, but none apply to a narrow body pushback from the gate. The commercial page 20-9A references a movement area which requires a clearance, however, it is not annotated on any page. Commercial page 20-9B shows some dashed lines on taxiway B, but they are not labeled as the movement area. Movement area markings are not found on air carrier legend pages. We did not call for pushback since it was not required. However, our tug driver made no statement as to how far he was pushing us. We did not realize we were pushing into a movement area. There is a note on commercial page 20-9 to not push onto taxiway B, however, this message would be more appropriate on 20-9A or 20-9B where the procedures are listed. Ground control was not happy with us. I called the facility after landing in dfw, and the supervisor stated to not worry about it, but either the air carrier pages need to be rewritten or the commercial publication needs to be rewritten.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 HAD TXWY INCURSION DURING PUSHBACK AT RSW.
Narrative: PUSHBACK INTO UNKNOWN MOVEMENT AREA AT RSW. COMPANY PAGE HAS NO DEP PROCS OTHER THAN TO REFER THE READER TO THE COMMERCIAL PAGE 20-9A. THE COMMERCIAL PAGE HAS NUMEROUS PROCS, BUT NONE APPLY TO A NARROW BODY PUSHBACK FROM THE GATE. THE COMMERCIAL PAGE 20-9A REFS A MOVEMENT AREA WHICH REQUIRES A CLRNC, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT ANNOTATED ON ANY PAGE. COMMERCIAL PAGE 20-9B SHOWS SOME DASHED LINES ON TXWY B, BUT THEY ARE NOT LABELED AS THE MOVEMENT AREA. MOVEMENT AREA MARKINGS ARE NOT FOUND ON ACR LEGEND PAGES. WE DID NOT CALL FOR PUSHBACK SINCE IT WAS NOT REQUIRED. HOWEVER, OUR TUG DRIVER MADE NO STATEMENT AS TO HOW FAR HE WAS PUSHING US. WE DID NOT REALIZE WE WERE PUSHING INTO A MOVEMENT AREA. THERE IS A NOTE ON COMMERCIAL PAGE 20-9 TO NOT PUSH ONTO TXWY B, HOWEVER, THIS MESSAGE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE ON 20-9A OR 20-9B WHERE THE PROCS ARE LISTED. GND CTL WAS NOT HAPPY WITH US. I CALLED THE FACILITY AFTER LNDG IN DFW, AND THE SUPVR STATED TO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT EITHER THE ACR PAGES NEED TO BE REWRITTEN OR THE COMMERCIAL PUB NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.