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Attributes | |
ACN | 475185 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon tower : dfw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 17r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 475185 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : dfw.tower |
Narrative:
We had performed a precautionary engine shutdown due to an engine start valve open annunciator light (valid indication). We declared an emergency and the nature of the problem to dfw departure and began a return to dfw. Shortly after being handed off to regional tower, local cleared a commuter turboprop for takeoff on runway 17R, the runway we're cleared to land on. The SF340 lifted off as we were passing 1000 ft and we landed without further difficulty. My concern lies in the fact that if the SF340 had had to abort its takeoff and evacuate/evacuation on the runway, we would have been forced to attempt a single engine go around at maximum landing weight, minus 400 pounds -- an unnecessarily risky maneuver. It seems after checking that ATC is under no obligation to increase separation ahead of emergency operations. In our case, the severely degraded go around capability implied by our engine-out condition, made increased lead spacing logical and very desirable. I recommend that ATC be compelled to increase separation ahead of emergency aircraft with degraded go around capability, which implies that pilots explicitly declare such degraded go around performance when declaring the emergency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 CONCERNED WITH EMER STATUS OBSERVING DFW CLR SF340 FOR TKOF WHEN ON A 3 MI FINAL.
Narrative: WE HAD PERFORMED A PRECAUTIONARY ENG SHUTDOWN DUE TO AN ENG START VALVE OPEN ANNUNCIATOR LIGHT (VALID INDICATION). WE DECLARED AN EMER AND THE NATURE OF THE PROB TO DFW DEP AND BEGAN A RETURN TO DFW. SHORTLY AFTER BEING HANDED OFF TO REGIONAL TWR, LCL CLRED A COMMUTER TURBOPROP FOR TKOF ON RWY 17R, THE RWY WE'RE CLRED TO LAND ON. THE SF340 LIFTED OFF AS WE WERE PASSING 1000 FT AND WE LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER DIFFICULTY. MY CONCERN LIES IN THE FACT THAT IF THE SF340 HAD HAD TO ABORT ITS TKOF AND EVAC ON THE RWY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO ATTEMPT A SINGLE ENG GAR AT MAX LNDG WT, MINUS 400 LBS -- AN UNNECESSARILY RISKY MANEUVER. IT SEEMS AFTER CHKING THAT ATC IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO INCREASE SEPARATION AHEAD OF EMER OPS. IN OUR CASE, THE SEVERELY DEGRADED GAR CAPABILITY IMPLIED BY OUR ENG-OUT CONDITION, MADE INCREASED LEAD SPACING LOGICAL AND VERY DESIRABLE. I RECOMMEND THAT ATC BE COMPELLED TO INCREASE SEPARATION AHEAD OF EMER ACFT WITH DEGRADED GAR CAPABILITY, WHICH IMPLIES THAT PLTS EXPLICITLY DECLARE SUCH DEGRADED GAR PERFORMANCE WHEN DECLARING THE EMER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.