A B737 flight crew is unable to make the civet crossing altitude when trying to slow and descend eas...

Attributes
ACN	509025
Time
Date	200104
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	intersection : civet
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 18000
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla.artcc tower : pit.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Route In Use	arrival star : civet 4
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	508025
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
ASRS Report	509024
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Location: east of civet. We were cleared direct civet for the civet 4 arrival and assigned maximum forward speed (320 KTS or better). I was at 325 KTS, FL240. We were then cleared to FL180 within approximately 20-25 mi of civet. ATC then reclred us to the mitts 1 arrival and runway 24R to comply with altitude restrs. Somewhere just prior to or after civet ATC had us reduce to 280 KTS. With idle descent and speed brakes deployed. I was unable to meet the civet 17000 ft, 14000 ft restr. Despite my best efforts, we crossed civet at FL180. Due to the high airspeed, I had no other options to expedite the descent to meet the crossing altitude. Supplemental information from acn 509024: I became involved in the FMC routing and completing the descent checklist.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B737 FLC IS UNABLE TO MAKE THE CIVET XING ALT WHEN TRYING TO SLOW AND DSND E OF CIVET, CA.

Narrative: LOCATION: E OF CIVET. WE WERE CLRED DIRECT CIVET FOR THE CIVET 4 ARR AND ASSIGNED MAX FORWARD SPD (320 KTS OR BETTER). I WAS AT 325 KTS, FL240. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO FL180 WITHIN APPROX 20-25 MI OF CIVET. ATC THEN RECLRED US TO THE MITTS 1 ARR AND RWY 24R TO COMPLY WITH ALT RESTRS. SOMEWHERE JUST PRIOR TO OR AFTER CIVET ATC HAD US REDUCE TO 280 KTS. WITH IDLE DSCNT AND SPD BRAKES DEPLOYED. I WAS UNABLE TO MEET THE CIVET 17000 FT, 14000 FT RESTR. DESPITE MY BEST EFFORTS, WE CROSSED CIVET AT FL180. DUE TO THE HIGH AIRSPD, I HAD NO OTHER OPTIONS TO EXPEDITE THE DSCNT TO MEET THE XING ALT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 509024: I BECAME INVOLVED IN THE FMC ROUTING AND COMPLETING THE DSCNT CHKLIST.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A B737 flight crew is unable to make the civet crossing altitude when trying to slow and descend east of civet, ca.