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Attributes | |
ACN | 521890 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10160 flight time type : 320 |
ASRS Report | 521890 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued alert flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | communication equipment : bur.tower |
Airport | lighting : bur.airport markings : bur.airport |
Narrative:
Landed on runway 8, tower told us to turn right onto ramp and hold short at hold line. This is an airline ramp very close to runway. Contacted ground control and was told to taxi to next hold line and hold short of runway 15/33. While taxiing, the taxi line I was following made a slight right turn and I followed it. However, this taxi line lead us closer to active runway and I started to parallel it to the left. The tower thought I was going back out on the runway and they sent an aircraft around that was on final approach. Ground control told us to turn left and follow the yellow taxi line, which we did. This line is very poorly marked. The whole ramp is poorly lighted and poorly marked. There are no blue taxiway indicators and it is very confusing. To add to the problem, the female ground controller was very weak on volume and xmissions were some what garbled. Recommendations: install blue lights or reflectors to outline taxi rtes, install green center line lights or reflectors to indicate taxi center line. Mark hold line better with lights and/or signs. Only 1 hold line was lighted. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he went up to the tower cabin attendant to talk with the controllers. They 'sort of' admitted that prior incidents of this nature had occurred before. They thought the lighting and markings were 'marginal to poor' so they were watching the hawker quite closely during this incident. A runway incursion did not occur.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A NEAR RWY INCURSION WHEN THE PIC OF A CORPORATE HAWKER 700 GETS CONFUSED ABOUT WHICH TAXI LINE TO FOLLOW DURING A NIGHT OP AT BUR, CA.
Narrative: LANDED ON RWY 8, TWR TOLD US TO TURN R ONTO RAMP AND HOLD SHORT AT HOLD LINE. THIS IS AN AIRLINE RAMP VERY CLOSE TO RWY. CONTACTED GND CTL AND WAS TOLD TO TAXI TO NEXT HOLD LINE AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 15/33. WHILE TAXIING, THE TAXI LINE I WAS FOLLOWING MADE A SLIGHT R TURN AND I FOLLOWED IT. HOWEVER, THIS TAXI LINE LEAD US CLOSER TO ACTIVE RWY AND I STARTED TO PARALLEL IT TO THE L. THE TWR THOUGHT I WAS GOING BACK OUT ON THE RWY AND THEY SENT AN ACFT AROUND THAT WAS ON FINAL APCH. GND CTL TOLD US TO TURN L AND FOLLOW THE YELLOW TAXI LINE, WHICH WE DID. THIS LINE IS VERY POORLY MARKED. THE WHOLE RAMP IS POORLY LIGHTED AND POORLY MARKED. THERE ARE NO BLUE TXWY INDICATORS AND IT IS VERY CONFUSING. TO ADD TO THE PROB, THE FEMALE GND CTLR WAS VERY WEAK ON VOLUME AND XMISSIONS WERE SOME WHAT GARBLED. RECOMMENDATIONS: INSTALL BLUE LIGHTS OR REFLECTORS TO OUTLINE TAXI RTES, INSTALL GREEN CENTER LINE LIGHTS OR REFLECTORS TO INDICATE TAXI CENTER LINE. MARK HOLD LINE BETTER WITH LIGHTS AND/OR SIGNS. ONLY 1 HOLD LINE WAS LIGHTED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE WENT UP TO THE TWR CAB TO TALK WITH THE CTLRS. THEY 'SORT OF' ADMITTED THAT PRIOR INCIDENTS OF THIS NATURE HAD OCCURRED BEFORE. THEY THOUGHT THE LIGHTING AND MARKINGS WERE 'MARGINAL TO POOR' SO THEY WERE WATCHING THE HAWKER QUITE CLOSELY DURING THIS INCIDENT. A RWY INCURSION DID NOT OCCUR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.