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Attributes | |
ACN | 553403 |
Time | |
Date | 200207 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc tower : srq.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 553403 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route from atl to ord, upon approach ord (135 mi), I told first officer (PF) that I was off #1 VHF. He acknowledged. I was trying to get ord ATIS (reception from that direction is very poor). I saw that first officer was talking to center, switched altitude alerter and contacted new controller. First officer initiated a descent. I looked at TCASII display and saw traffic approaching at -900 ft. We were at FL240 and descending. I then looked and saw he had FL230 set. RA went off calling for climb. First officer didn't respond, at which point I disconnected autoplt and climbed. First officer seemed confused and tried to descend again. I reset altitude to FL240. Center called to make sure about FL240. First officer said previous controller said FL230. I told controller this and he said it may have been. I talked to first officer about questioning ATC when danger is present. Don't just do it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT ENSUES WHEN THE PF FO ACCEPTS A DSCNT CLRNC THAT GENERATES A TCASII RA FOR OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC BELOW CL65 ENRTE TO ORD, IL.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM ATL TO ORD, UPON APCH ORD (135 MI), I TOLD FO (PF) THAT I WAS OFF #1 VHF. HE ACKNOWLEDGED. I WAS TRYING TO GET ORD ATIS (RECEPTION FROM THAT DIRECTION IS VERY POOR). I SAW THAT FO WAS TALKING TO CTR, SWITCHED ALT ALERTER AND CONTACTED NEW CTLR. FO INITIATED A DSCNT. I LOOKED AT TCASII DISPLAY AND SAW TFC APCHING AT -900 FT. WE WERE AT FL240 AND DSNDING. I THEN LOOKED AND SAW HE HAD FL230 SET. RA WENT OFF CALLING FOR CLB. FO DIDN'T RESPOND, AT WHICH POINT I DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND CLBED. FO SEEMED CONFUSED AND TRIED TO DSND AGAIN. I RESET ALT TO FL240. CTR CALLED TO MAKE SURE ABOUT FL240. FO SAID PREVIOUS CTLR SAID FL230. I TOLD CTLR THIS AND HE SAID IT MAY HAVE BEEN. I TALKED TO FO ABOUT QUESTIONING ATC WHEN DANGER IS PRESENT. DON'T JUST DO IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.