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Attributes | |
ACN | 567855 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 09r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 09r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 567855 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC facility: ord approach. Location: 30 degree intercept to runway 9R. We were set up for runway 9L and upon initial contact with approach they assigned runway 9R. We set up for runway 9R. They turned us to heading 180 degrees, then 120 degrees cleared for the approach. When we saw another aircraft on final to runway 9R in front of us, I verified it was still runway 9R. The controller screamed 'no, you were cleared for runway 9L.' were positive they assigned runway 9R because we had to reset everything for the runway we were not expecting. We flew to runway 9L not in conflict with runway 9R, then the controller asked us our altitude and we said 2300 ft. He said 'you're assigned 3000 ft' and I said 'you cleared us for runway 9L a second ago.' the problem could have been avoided if he would have added the runway he wanted us to join the ILS for -- not just 120 degree heading, 3000 ft cleared approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ON INITIAL CONTACT, A B737 CREW WERE ADVISED TO EXPECT RWY 9R APCH BUT LEARNED LATER THEY WERE TO USE RWY 9L.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY: ORD APCH. LOCATION: 30 DEG INTERCEPT TO RWY 9R. WE WERE SET UP FOR RWY 9L AND UPON INITIAL CONTACT WITH APCH THEY ASSIGNED RWY 9R. WE SET UP FOR RWY 9R. THEY TURNED US TO HDG 180 DEGS, THEN 120 DEGS CLRED FOR THE APCH. WHEN WE SAW ANOTHER ACFT ON FINAL TO RWY 9R IN FRONT OF US, I VERIFIED IT WAS STILL RWY 9R. THE CTLR SCREAMED 'NO, YOU WERE CLRED FOR RWY 9L.' WERE POSITIVE THEY ASSIGNED RWY 9R BECAUSE WE HAD TO RESET EVERYTHING FOR THE RWY WE WERE NOT EXPECTING. WE FLEW TO RWY 9L NOT IN CONFLICT WITH RWY 9R, THEN THE CTLR ASKED US OUR ALT AND WE SAID 2300 FT. HE SAID 'YOU'RE ASSIGNED 3000 FT' AND I SAID 'YOU CLRED US FOR RWY 9L A SECOND AGO.' THE PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF HE WOULD HAVE ADDED THE RWY HE WANTED US TO JOIN THE ILS FOR -- NOT JUST 120 DEG HDG, 3000 FT CLRED APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.