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Attributes | |
ACN | 623741 |
Time | |
Date | 200407 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : dand |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 178 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1416 |
ASRS Report | 623741 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On tuesday, we were flying to den. We were in an A319. It was a VFR day in denver. We were filed on the dand 4 arrival. After getting ATIS, we had prepared for a runway 17R arrival. Approximately 100 mi out, ATC told us to keep up the speed as we were leading a group of 6 aircraft and we would be #1. As we arrived into the terminal area, the controller told us that they had just switched runways and we could expect runway 35R and that the new ATIS was XXXX and to advise him when we had the new ATIS. We got the new ATIS, which by the way was still advertising the runways 17/16, set up and briefed for an ILS runway 35R backed up by the visual. We were handed off to the final controller at approximately XA20 on frequency 125.75. The controller assigned us a heading of 270 degrees. That was all that the controller said, fly heading 270 degrees. As we were keeping the speed up my first officer wanted to slow down, so I asked the controller if they needed a particular speed. Controller immediately replied, no. We began to decelerate below 200 KTS. At approximately 2 mi from the final approach course, between deane and fronz, I tried to get a word in to see if we were cleared for the approach, but to no avail. Inside of 2 mi from the final course, we got a TCASII TA. On the display, I had a target at approximately 11 O'clock position, 2-3 mi and below us. I was looking outside for the traffic. Still no approach clearance, unable to raise ATC and now an RA, I spotted what appeared to be an rj on final for runway 35L. 'Monitor vertical speed.' my first officer adjusted, I called TCASII climb and then the controller admonished us for flying through final and gave us a turn. I responded that we had never been cleared for the approach. We were then sequenced in for an approach to runway 35L. While on final, I was told to contact the tower on landing and given the phone number. The landing was uneventful, although we were both shook up. This was a new situation for me. I've been a captain on the line now for a few months. I called assistant chief pilot and told him what happened. He asked for the tower number and he called the tower supervisor in den. The assistant chief pilot called me about 10 mins later. He told me that the den tower supervisor had reviewed the tapes and that my first officer and I were correct. We had never been issued a clearance for the approach and that there was no loss of separation from the other aircraft. Furthermore, the supervisor offered his apology for the event. Although I was relieved at having been vindicated, I was still shaken. The most confusing part of this episode was the TCASII escape. All at once, all hell broke loose. TCASII talking to us, altitude horns going off, controllers barking, inability to communicate due to frequency congestion, trying to manage it all and stay clear of other aircraft. I think that the human factors were the last min change of runways and the maneuvering that goes on, on behalf of both the controllers and the pilots to make it happen. You have to shift gears fast in the cockpit and I believe the controllers do also. I think that the controller got slammed with all of the aircraft coming. Communication was difficult when we needed guidance. Then it was too late.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 ARR TO DEN EXPERIENCED TCASII TA DURING VISUAL APCH TO RWY 35R.
Narrative: ON TUESDAY, WE WERE FLYING TO DEN. WE WERE IN AN A319. IT WAS A VFR DAY IN DENVER. WE WERE FILED ON THE DAND 4 ARR. AFTER GETTING ATIS, WE HAD PREPARED FOR A RWY 17R ARR. APPROX 100 MI OUT, ATC TOLD US TO KEEP UP THE SPD AS WE WERE LEADING A GROUP OF 6 ACFT AND WE WOULD BE #1. AS WE ARRIVED INTO THE TERMINAL AREA, THE CTLR TOLD US THAT THEY HAD JUST SWITCHED RWYS AND WE COULD EXPECT RWY 35R AND THAT THE NEW ATIS WAS XXXX AND TO ADVISE HIM WHEN WE HAD THE NEW ATIS. WE GOT THE NEW ATIS, WHICH BY THE WAY WAS STILL ADVERTISING THE RWYS 17/16, SET UP AND BRIEFED FOR AN ILS RWY 35R BACKED UP BY THE VISUAL. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE FINAL CTLR AT APPROX XA20 ON FREQ 125.75. THE CTLR ASSIGNED US A HDG OF 270 DEGS. THAT WAS ALL THAT THE CTLR SAID, FLY HDG 270 DEGS. AS WE WERE KEEPING THE SPD UP MY FO WANTED TO SLOW DOWN, SO I ASKED THE CTLR IF THEY NEEDED A PARTICULAR SPD. CTLR IMMEDIATELY REPLIED, NO. WE BEGAN TO DECELERATE BELOW 200 KTS. AT APPROX 2 MI FROM THE FINAL APCH COURSE, BTWN DEANE AND FRONZ, I TRIED TO GET A WORD IN TO SEE IF WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH, BUT TO NO AVAIL. INSIDE OF 2 MI FROM THE FINAL COURSE, WE GOT A TCASII TA. ON THE DISPLAY, I HAD A TARGET AT APPROX 11 O'CLOCK POS, 2-3 MI AND BELOW US. I WAS LOOKING OUTSIDE FOR THE TFC. STILL NO APCH CLRNC, UNABLE TO RAISE ATC AND NOW AN RA, I SPOTTED WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN RJ ON FINAL FOR RWY 35L. 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' MY FO ADJUSTED, I CALLED TCASII CLB AND THEN THE CTLR ADMONISHED US FOR FLYING THROUGH FINAL AND GAVE US A TURN. I RESPONDED THAT WE HAD NEVER BEEN CLRED FOR THE APCH. WE WERE THEN SEQUENCED IN FOR AN APCH TO RWY 35L. WHILE ON FINAL, I WAS TOLD TO CONTACT THE TWR ON LNDG AND GIVEN THE PHONE NUMBER. THE LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL, ALTHOUGH WE WERE BOTH SHOOK UP. THIS WAS A NEW SIT FOR ME. I'VE BEEN A CAPT ON THE LINE NOW FOR A FEW MONTHS. I CALLED ASSISTANT CHIEF PLT AND TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED. HE ASKED FOR THE TWR NUMBER AND HE CALLED THE TWR SUPVR IN DEN. THE ASSISTANT CHIEF PLT CALLED ME ABOUT 10 MINS LATER. HE TOLD ME THAT THE DEN TWR SUPVR HAD REVIEWED THE TAPES AND THAT MY FO AND I WERE CORRECT. WE HAD NEVER BEEN ISSUED A CLRNC FOR THE APCH AND THAT THERE WAS NO LOSS OF SEPARATION FROM THE OTHER ACFT. FURTHERMORE, THE SUPVR OFFERED HIS APOLOGY FOR THE EVENT. ALTHOUGH I WAS RELIEVED AT HAVING BEEN VINDICATED, I WAS STILL SHAKEN. THE MOST CONFUSING PART OF THIS EPISODE WAS THE TCASII ESCAPE. ALL AT ONCE, ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE. TCASII TALKING TO US, ALT HORNS GOING OFF, CTLRS BARKING, INABILITY TO COMMUNICATE DUE TO FREQ CONGESTION, TRYING TO MANAGE IT ALL AND STAY CLR OF OTHER ACFT. I THINK THAT THE HUMAN FACTORS WERE THE LAST MIN CHANGE OF RWYS AND THE MANEUVERING THAT GOES ON, ON BEHALF OF BOTH THE CTLRS AND THE PLTS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. YOU HAVE TO SHIFT GEARS FAST IN THE COCKPIT AND I BELIEVE THE CTLRS DO ALSO. I THINK THAT THE CTLR GOT SLAMMED WITH ALL OF THE ACFT COMING. COM WAS DIFFICULT WHEN WE NEEDED GUIDANCE. THEN IT WAS TOO LATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.