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Attributes | |
ACN | 713308 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : c90.tracon |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach controller : supervisor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 6 controller non radar : 6 controller radar : 20 controller supervisory : 5 controller time certified in position1 : 14 |
ASRS Report | 713308 |
Events | |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : c90.tracon |
Narrative:
Runways 9L/right simultaneous ILS approachs require controllers to take or vector aircraft outside ord class B airspace between the altitudes of 4000-7000 ft. Class B airspace ends at 20 mi west of ord. Controllers are required to vector out of class B because C90 management has deemed it necessary for aircraft to be established and switched to the monitor frequency by 18 mi west of ord. That means base-leg cannot occur until at least 22 mi west of ord. This airspace west of ord is notoriously busy with VFR aircraft. It is an extremely unsafe area for IFR arrs; most especially for aircraft at 4000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C90 CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING SIMULTANEOUS APCH PROCS FOR RWYS 9L-R THAT RESULT IN VECTORING ACFT OUTSIDE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: RWYS 9L/R SIMULTANEOUS ILS APCHS REQUIRE CTLRS TO TAKE OR VECTOR ACFT OUTSIDE ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE BTWN THE ALTS OF 4000-7000 FT. CLASS B AIRSPACE ENDS AT 20 MI W OF ORD. CTLRS ARE REQUIRED TO VECTOR OUT OF CLASS B BECAUSE C90 MGMNT HAS DEEMED IT NECESSARY FOR ACFT TO BE ESTABLISHED AND SWITCHED TO THE MONITOR FREQ BY 18 MI W OF ORD. THAT MEANS BASE-LEG CANNOT OCCUR UNTIL AT LEAST 22 MI W OF ORD. THIS AIRSPACE W OF ORD IS NOTORIOUSLY BUSY WITH VFR ACFT. IT IS AN EXTREMELY UNSAFE AREA FOR IFR ARRS; MOST ESPECIALLY FOR ACFT AT 4000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.