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Attributes | |
ACN | 718428 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-34-200 Seneca I |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 920 flight time type : 85 |
ASRS Report | 718249 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe excursion : taxiway other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The student (left seat) is a private student of mine who is preparing to solo in a piper warrior. On this particular day it was more convenient for us to take the seneca (our training twin) to visit family and we decided to train on the way. Engine start was completed and taxi was initiated to runway. The aircraft was on taxiway a; a downhill taxiway; and I advised the student to slow his taxi speed. The brakes were applied and the aircraft began to veer right and head towards a grass embankment. I (instructor) told the student to apply left pedal and brake to slow down while I reached for the right throttle and tried to remedy the situation. I was unsuccessful. When it was clear that the aircraft was going to depart the taxiway; I pulled both mixtures to idle cut-off. It was too late; however; to prevent the right propeller from striking a piece of the embankment. The aircraft came to rest with the nosewheel on the embankment. No damage to the aircraft was done; however; the status of the right engine is unclr pending decisions from mechanic on whether teardown is necessary. The propeller is not visibly damaged or bent either. A similar event happened to me in an arrow not long ago and both of these aircraft have one thing in common -- no brakes on the right side (side I was on). I believe this event would not have occurred if I had brakes on my side. The student reported that he felt like they weren't working; but this is not the case. The brakes were working fine; the student lost control and became frightened pushing on the brakes harder and a situation developed that I feel was unrecoverable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA34 SENECA PLT HAS A TXWY EXCURSION AND IMPACTS AN EMBANKMENT.
Narrative: THE STUDENT (L SEAT) IS A PVT STUDENT OF MINE WHO IS PREPARING TO SOLO IN A PIPER WARRIOR. ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY IT WAS MORE CONVENIENT FOR US TO TAKE THE SENECA (OUR TRAINING TWIN) TO VISIT FAMILY AND WE DECIDED TO TRAIN ON THE WAY. ENG START WAS COMPLETED AND TAXI WAS INITIATED TO RWY. THE ACFT WAS ON TXWY A; A DOWNHILL TXWY; AND I ADVISED THE STUDENT TO SLOW HIS TAXI SPD. THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED AND THE ACFT BEGAN TO VEER RIGHT AND HEAD TOWARDS A GRASS EMBANKMENT. I (INSTRUCTOR) TOLD THE STUDENT TO APPLY L PEDAL AND BRAKE TO SLOW DOWN WHILE I REACHED FOR THE R THROTTLE AND TRIED TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. I WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. WHEN IT WAS CLR THAT THE ACFT WAS GOING TO DEPART THE TXWY; I PULLED BOTH MIXTURES TO IDLE CUT-OFF. IT WAS TOO LATE; HOWEVER; TO PREVENT THE R PROP FROM STRIKING A PIECE OF THE EMBANKMENT. THE ACFT CAME TO REST WITH THE NOSEWHEEL ON THE EMBANKMENT. NO DAMAGE TO THE ACFT WAS DONE; HOWEVER; THE STATUS OF THE R ENG IS UNCLR PENDING DECISIONS FROM MECH ON WHETHER TEARDOWN IS NECESSARY. THE PROP IS NOT VISIBLY DAMAGED OR BENT EITHER. A SIMILAR EVENT HAPPENED TO ME IN AN ARROW NOT LONG AGO AND BOTH OF THESE ACFT HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON -- NO BRAKES ON THE R SIDE (SIDE I WAS ON). I BELIEVE THIS EVENT WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF I HAD BRAKES ON MY SIDE. THE STUDENT RPTED THAT HE FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T WORKING; BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE. THE BRAKES WERE WORKING FINE; THE STUDENT LOST CTL AND BECAME FRIGHTENED PUSHING ON THE BRAKES HARDER AND A SITUATION DEVELOPED THAT I FEEL WAS UNRECOVERABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.