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Attributes | |
ACN | 728197 |
Time | |
Date | 200702 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cirrus Acft Undifferentiated |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 530 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 728197 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed as precaution flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I was teaching my student his first lesson in the pattern. The class D airspace was busy at this time with multiple aircraft in the pattern/rejoining. After a decrease in the traffic; the female controller handed over to her male colleague. After approximately 2 more circuits my student bounced on landing; at which time I took control and initiated a go around. I was instructed to continue and make right traffic reporting the downwind; to which I replied 'wilco.' at approximately 700 ft on the extended centerline; my student initiated a right turn to crosswind. Whilst looking out in the direction of the turn; I spotted the other aircraft at very close proximity to our aircraft. I deflected the control column fully forward in evasive action; without which I believe a collision would have occurred. The other aircraft reported that I had just passed below them and later I confirmed I was 'definitely visual' with the other aircraft when requesting a full stop landing. At no time was I given a traffic report by the controller regarding the incoming traffic to the downwind. If I was given the information the situation would have been averted as I would have been looking for the incoming traffic. I am not aware whether the other aircraft was given a traffic report for us; however; I was the lower of the 2 aircraft; so I had right-of-way in this situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 WITH STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR ABOARD HAVE NMAC WITH CIRRUS IN TRAFFIC PATTERN WHILE TOWER IS IN OPERATION.
Narrative: I WAS TEACHING MY STUDENT HIS FIRST LESSON IN THE PATTERN. THE CLASS D AIRSPACE WAS BUSY AT THIS TIME WITH MULTIPLE ACFT IN THE PATTERN/REJOINING. AFTER A DECREASE IN THE TFC; THE FEMALE CTLR HANDED OVER TO HER MALE COLLEAGUE. AFTER APPROX 2 MORE CIRCUITS MY STUDENT BOUNCED ON LNDG; AT WHICH TIME I TOOK CTL AND INITIATED A GAR. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CONTINUE AND MAKE R TFC RPTING THE DOWNWIND; TO WHICH I REPLIED 'WILCO.' AT APPROX 700 FT ON THE EXTENDED CTRLINE; MY STUDENT INITIATED A R TURN TO XWIND. WHILST LOOKING OUT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TURN; I SPOTTED THE OTHER ACFT AT VERY CLOSE PROX TO OUR ACFT. I DEFLECTED THE CTL COLUMN FULLY FORWARD IN EVASIVE ACTION; WITHOUT WHICH I BELIEVE A COLLISION WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. THE OTHER ACFT RPTED THAT I HAD JUST PASSED BELOW THEM AND LATER I CONFIRMED I WAS 'DEFINITELY VISUAL' WITH THE OTHER ACFT WHEN REQUESTING A FULL STOP LNDG. AT NO TIME WAS I GIVEN A TFC RPT BY THE CTLR REGARDING THE INCOMING TFC TO THE DOWNWIND. IF I WAS GIVEN THE INFO THE SIT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED AS I WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE INCOMING TFC. I AM NOT AWARE WHETHER THE OTHER ACFT WAS GIVEN A TFC RPT FOR US; HOWEVER; I WAS THE LOWER OF THE 2 ACFT; SO I HAD RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THIS SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.