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Attributes | |
ACN | 83242 |
Time | |
Date | 198803 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : djb |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tower : cmi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 83242 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 83239 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound to det metropolitan from the southeast. Were cleared to FL240 to cross djb at FL240. Then were cleared to cross tripe intersection at 10000'. Just as we were about to begin the descent, we both heard a low, moaning vibration. Having no other indications, we assumed that it was in the aircraft and scanned all the instruments and warning lights for problems. Nothing was found, so we assumed that it was the nose gear doors and tried the old remedy of turning the hydraulic pumps too high. No effect was noticed, as the noise had long before ceased. We were about to dismiss the incident when one of the F/a's came forward and asked, 'did you see that?' we, of course, asked, 'see what?' she then described a small high winged airplane that she had seen out of the left side of the airplane. She further said that it had been very close. Further inquiry revealed that the noise was much louder in the cabin area. We concluded that we had just had a near miss. The airplane had been so close that we heard it! It had evidently passed right to left over us on a very small heading crossing angle, as when the sound was heard, I was looking directly at the 3 O'clock area. Cle center was advised, but had no primary targets near us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG IN CRUISE HAS NMAC WITH UNKNOWN ACFT.
Narrative: WE WERE INBND TO DET METRO FROM THE SE. WERE CLRED TO FL240 TO CROSS DJB AT FL240. THEN WERE CLRED TO CROSS TRIPE INTXN AT 10000'. JUST AS WE WERE ABOUT TO BEGIN THE DSCNT, WE BOTH HEARD A LOW, MOANING VIBRATION. HAVING NO OTHER INDICATIONS, WE ASSUMED THAT IT WAS IN THE ACFT AND SCANNED ALL THE INSTRUMENTS AND WARNING LIGHTS FOR PROBS. NOTHING WAS FOUND, SO WE ASSUMED THAT IT WAS THE NOSE GEAR DOORS AND TRIED THE OLD REMEDY OF TURNING THE HYD PUMPS TOO HIGH. NO EFFECT WAS NOTICED, AS THE NOISE HAD LONG BEFORE CEASED. WE WERE ABOUT TO DISMISS THE INCIDENT WHEN ONE OF THE F/A'S CAME FORWARD AND ASKED, 'DID YOU SEE THAT?' WE, OF COURSE, ASKED, 'SEE WHAT?' SHE THEN DESCRIBED A SMALL HIGH WINGED AIRPLANE THAT SHE HAD SEEN OUT OF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE AIRPLANE. SHE FURTHER SAID THAT IT HAD BEEN VERY CLOSE. FURTHER INQUIRY REVEALED THAT THE NOISE WAS MUCH LOUDER IN THE CABIN AREA. WE CONCLUDED THAT WE HAD JUST HAD A NEAR MISS. THE AIRPLANE HAD BEEN SO CLOSE THAT WE HEARD IT! IT HAD EVIDENTLY PASSED RIGHT TO LEFT OVER US ON A VERY SMALL HDG XING ANGLE, AS WHEN THE SOUND WAS HEARD, I WAS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE 3 O'CLOCK AREA. CLE CENTER WAS ADVISED, BUT HAD NO PRIMARY TARGETS NEAR US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.